Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yahoo! Messenger Protocol


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The result was redirect to Yahoo! Messenger. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:03, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Yahoo! Messenger Protocol

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Article does not cite any sources for this defunct Yahoo! product, there may a few paragraphs that could be salvageable for the main Yahoo! Messenger article but other than that it should be deleted. Pahiy (talk) 20:14, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Pahiy (talk) 20:14, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete, the only way this article could be permitted would be if there were non-primary sources to cite. But they will certainly never appear because this protocol is now only interesting for software archeologists. --Ysangkok (talk) 23:38, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, Weirdly, there is quite a bit of coverage in scholarly article specifically of the network protocol rather than yahoo messenger. The sources seem to contrast it with IRC which is a highly notable network protocol. I would think of it more on that term than this. I'll add these in if the article is a keep
 * https://www.usenix.org/legacy/event/sec07/tech/full_papers/cui/cui.pdf
 * http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~nahum/papers/ieee-network-instant-messaging.pdf PainProf (talk) 02:51, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete To pass WP:GNG, sources must be secondary, reliable, and significant. Neither of those papers pass. The first one is about a system for reverse engineering chat protocols. The second one is a study of the protocol directly, which means it is a primary source rather than a secondary source. Edit: The articles in the refs are primary as well: studies of the messengers using techniques such as traffic packet capture, due to the protocol being closed source. – FenixFeather (talk) (Contribs) 23:54, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Yahoo! Messenger: Barely found anything about it aside from the papers indicated by PainProf. It's best to summarize it in the target article. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 09:51, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kj cheetham (talk) 21:00, 15 July 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  D My Son  04:11, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Yahoo! Messenger --<b style="color:#77b">Devoke</b><b style="color:#fb0">water</b> @  09:33, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


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