Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yair Shimansky


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was not deleted. The rough consensus is that this article should be merged with Brilliant 10 diamond one way or another. Either way, deletion is not the correct outcome. Deryck C. 12:40, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Yair Shimansky

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But it has sources! Well, yes it does, but I submit that it lacks the reliable and independent sources needed to establish notability. All of the coverage in the article's citations, and all that I'm able to find elsewhere, is obviously derived from press releases and other promotional material emanating from Shimansky's business itself (much of it dealing with various publicity stunts). The Cape Town Magazine site, to judge by its self-descriptive material, apparently focuses on material promoting the site's paying "partners"; the World Records Academy posts user-submitted "records"; and the Independent Online News and other pieces are clearly based on—or straight reprints of—press releases. Without independent sources, this article is nothing but an advertisement.

N.B.: The last time I checked the Cape Town Magazine site, it attempted to download a bunch of trojans and other malware to my computer. Visit it at your own risk, particularly if you lack robust antivirus software. Deor (talk) 15:11, 21 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Important Comment  - A URL Virus scan from Virustotal.com reports that the Cape Town Magazine website is absolutely clean (no trojans, no viruses, no worms, no malware, etc.) I have restored the references to the article. Northamerica1000 (talk) 22:29, 21 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Brilliant 10 diamond closed as no consensus to delete, then Northamerica1000 went and merged its history over to this article, which he also created, and changed it to a redirect. Are we just having the same AFD you started last month at Articles for deletion/Brilliant 10 diamond?   D r e a m Focus  21:51, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No, we're having a brand-new AfD about a different article. (And Northamerica1000 did not "merge the history" of Brilliant 10 diamond to this article; in fact, he included, without proper back-attribution, material originally contributed to that article by its creator, User:Yairshimansky). Deor (talk) 22:03, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:55, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 20:28, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

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In the South African context, Yair Shimansky is a notable figure. He is the founder and owner of Shimansky, a luxury jewellery brand, and has appeared on local television and has been interviewed by press many times. Shimansky is also notable in the jewellery industry as they are a fully vertically integrated company who source diamonds direct from diamond mines, cut and polish their own diamonds and manufacture their own jewellery. I'm surprised the My Girl Diamond isn't listed here, as this diamond cut was developed by Yair Shimansky and is the first internationally patented diamond cut to originate from South Africa. They also recently opened a diamond museum (http://www.capetowndiamondmuseum.org/) and they have a number of sub-brands under the Shimansky umbrella. Being a commercial company, it's natural that most of the published information about them would be from publications and media releases, as few studies are done on companies of this nature in South Africa. They may not be as popular as some of the worlds major brands, but that does not make it any less relevant for those of us here in South Africa that want to find detailed information on a company? Especially a company as notable as Shimansky and it's founder Yair Shimansky. Further, Cape Town Magazine is a reputable website and the content seems up to date and relevant to their target market. I have found no trojans or malware when visiting the website. Given time I am sure further information will be added to the entry that will improve on references and citations. This is why I'd argue against deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vida77 (talk • contribs) 07:29, 24 January 2012 (UTC) — Vida77 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Merge and redirect Brilliant 10 diamond to Yair Shimansky or visa/versa. The same half-dozen references are used for both. Stuartyeates (talk) 09:39, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stifle (talk) 16:54, 29 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - and then merge and redirect Brilliant 10 diamond to Yair Shimansky. Northamerica1000 (talk) 21:36, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.