Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yaki Kadafi (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Given the minor improvements in the article and the exposure in some more publications since the last AFD, there now exists sufficient basis to retain this article. However, some further improvements and citation of printed publications would be beneficial. AGK [•] 11:44, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Yaki Kadafi
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This was listed once before with a delete result, but I have no way of telling if this qualifies as a speedy as db-repost. Google News yields 0 results, and all others websites are either mirrors of this Wikipedia page or fall into the bucket of highly UNreliable sources. coccyx bloccyx (toccyx)  19:04, 20 May 2012 (UTC) STRONG KEEP This artist has been credited as a writer on works that reached #1 on the Top 200 Billboard Charts! He has been credited for co-writing multiple hits of the late 2Pac Shakur! Considering the success this artist had with 2Pac Shakur and the Outlawz as well as the connection implied, that he is the only witness to the unsolved murder of 2Pac Shakur. The significance and notability may also be considered through mentioning in several Print Publications.--Regeek (talk) 12:33, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I expected to suggest a redirect to Muammar until I read it; I've never heard of anyone else with this name before. It's definitely not a repost; maybe it would have qualified for G4 when it was originally created, but G4 is only for "a sufficiently identical and unimproved copy" of a deleted article, and this has been extensively modified since April of last year.  Nyttend (talk) 12:28, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Please view links to reliable, independent source here:
 * ASCAP Record (credited as writer of #1 Billboard charting works)
 * Billboard charting record
 * Washington Times List of notable Rappers gunned down--Regeek (talk) 08:14, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Comment:I can not possibly bring myself to understand why anyone would want to delete this entry! I for one understand if someone is not well versed in the Categories: Hip Hop, Rap etc. but to nominate this page for deletion shocks me. Perhaps this is something to tell the millions of fans of 2Pac Shakur and his music, including this member Yaki Kadafi that this late rapper is not worthy of an article! Please consider the notability of this late rapper and the legacy he and 2Pac Shakur have left behind.--Regeek (talk) 14:59, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 12:56, 21 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment: The article needs some copy-editing but there appears to be a strong case to be made for good sourcing having been provided. Stormbay (talk) 22:17, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC)



Keep I have provided adequate citations to reliable sources independent of the subject, which meet the WP:Notability WP:guidelines. As mentioned before these additional sources credit the subject as a writer for musical works that not only reached the billboard charts, but also went Platinum multiple times. The subject meets nearly ALL WP:Music guidelines and in my opinion represents a very strong KEEP --Regeek (talk) 15:06, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * ASCAP Record (credited as writer of #1 Billboard charting works)
 * Billboard charting record
 * Note: you may add comments but should only !vote "keep" once. JohnCD (talk) 17:32, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:42, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

 Comment, User:Regeek has made some good arguments why this article should be kept, but I would like to see someone else chime in with an opinion before definitively closing this one way or the other. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:43, 4 June 2012 (UTC).
 * Delete. The sources being cited seem to refer to the artist Tupac/2Pac and not this subject.  I cannot find non-trivial coverage of Yaki Kadafi in reliable sources. Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 19:10, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment The sources cited refer to Yaki Kadafi and are without a doubt reliable sources. Please revisit them as you obviously did not view them correctly!--Regeek (talk) 20:38, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak keep He meets WP:MUSIC guidelines through his songwriting, and possibly for his appearances on hit records, but so far there's very little press coverage apart from references to his role in Tupac's death. On the other hand, he's dead, so WP:BLP doesn't apply.  And there are a lot of books about Tupac, so he must get a mention in some of them. --Colapeninsula (talk) 13:26, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

The Washington Times named him in their "List of Rappers gunned down", which looks at 20 notable Rappers gunned down. His death has been written about in numerous printed publications including the book by Cathy Scott and several others --Regeek (talk) 20:25, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment He is mentioned in ALL of the printed publications! And without doubt has earned his place within Wikipedia, considering, that WP is not a platform to advertise or give room for articles on insignificant subjects and events! Again, I must stress the following!
 * Numerous Print Publications! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Regeek (talk • contribs) 20:28, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge usable content with Outlawz and Tupac Shakur. Subject here has some notoriety but doesn't merit a separate article because he isn't notable in his own right, only as a member of the Outlawz group and for his close association with Tupac Shakur. DocTree (talk) 03:37, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.