Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yamato (fictional spacecraft) (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Space Battleship Yamato. Consensus is against keeping, but split between (selective) merge and redirect. Whether to merge any content from the history, therefore, remains up to interested editors.  Sandstein  09:15, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Yamato (fictional spacecraft)
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 * This article is full of cruft and has still remained awful for a decade. It's best to redirect into Space Battleship Yamato or something else. OnlyFixingProse (talk) 22:17, 30 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:44, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Science fiction and fantasy.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:50, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect - to Space Battleship Yamato. The article is currently completely devoid of sources, and is composed entirely of in-universe plot summary. As an extremely notable franchise, there are tons of sources on the various series themselves, and most of those sources, of course, talk about the titular ship as part of the overall discussion. But, I am not seeing any reliable sources that go over the inner-workings of the fictional ship in such detail that a WP:SPLIT is actually warranted rather than presenting that information on the main page for the franchise. In that sense, I would have preferred to have been able to suggest a Merge of some of the non-plot information, but the fact that nothing here is being cited to reliable, secondary sources makes that a no-go. The previous AFD discussions, the most recent of which was 14 years ago, largely relied on arguments that would not fly today, consisting of a lot of WP:ITSNOTABLE votes, as well as presenting sources that would not actually be valid as reliable, secondary sources. Rorshacma (talk) 16:24, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge per the above, but correcting rationale: Elements in a fictional topic don't need to each be independently RS'ed, as long as the topic itself is notable, so some primary sourced material is fine to merge appropriately. Redirect is problematic because there's not much covered about the battleship itself in the main topic, so a merge is a better option. Jclemens (talk) 18:31, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - Fair enough. I was actually referring more towards the "real world" development parts of the article that would have required reliable sources to merge, but if people feel that the main article on the franchise could be beefed up with some additional plot information from this article, I have no objections. Rorshacma (talk) 19:07, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * But there is no primary sourced material here to merge, either. (I am totally fine with using primary refs for plot summaries, for the record). This fancruft is below a good fanwiki quality (where there are footnotes to TV episodes/manga chapters/etc.). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:38, 2 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge per Jclemens, albeit judiciously. Haleth (talk) 22:43, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect. No referenced conent exist for merging. As written, this fails GNG. Note that some sources do exist (ex. ) but it's arguable whether the theme is the TV show or the vessle. It's a bit of like trying to argue that it was the USS Enterprise that was more important than the Star Trek show. And while in the ST case, both entities are notable, I don't think there is sufficient coverage of this anime to warrant the split. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:36, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Space Battleship Yamato. I really don't feel comfortable with a merge here, if we do have a merge then it should be limited. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:31, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Selective merge to the main series article. I don't think this requires a full-on section, but there are certainly some verifiable aspects of this topic that would help build the main article. Passes WP:V even if it's dubious on WP:GNG, and there is a very obvious main topic that could stand to be improved. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:24, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:Verifiability due to no reliable sources, and is not a good search term due to the disambiguation. Avilich (talk) 18:10, 7 May 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.