Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yanaki Smirnov (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. There is a weak consensus that while the article does not meet the WP:NFOOTBALL guideline there is sufficient coverage to meet the main notability guideline. Davewild (talk) 07:23, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Yanaki Smirnov
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Speedy deletion per WP:G4 was declined on the grounds that this version of the article is sufficiently different from the one deleted in 2012. However, Yanaki Smirnov has still not played in a fully pro league or received significant coverage, meaning the article still fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:58, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:59, 12 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete and SALT - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 15:14, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - meets GNG. Fails NFOOTBALL as competitor one rung below top league of professionals, but has been frequently featured in Bulgarian press as a top junior and the top scorer in the B league, , , ,   —Мандичка YO 😜 18:14, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. From the sources noted above, I can see one interview of decent length and one other article that is longer than a couple of paragraphs. The fact that he is 22 and playing for a reserve team suggests it is WP:TOOSOON. Fenix down (talk) 08:13, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Did you look for further sources?  —Мандичка YO 😜 17:37, 13 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - Fails NFOOTBALL, but meet GNG with becoming a top scorer of B group and now is playing for Ludogorets. Thats why i made the article. No point to be deleted now and be remade again after month or 2. Have made that and with other articles, like Aleksandar Kolev, and i feel the case is just the same. Article have all the needed refs, so it could stay. K.belev (talk) 17:44, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Other stuff exists is not a valid argument for keeping the article, and there is a long standing consensus against applying WP:NSPORT prematurely in anticipation of potential future appearances. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:50, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, still meet GNG, which for me is enough for keeping the article. K.belev (talk) 21:48, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter that he fails sport notability guidelines; he meets GNG. —Мандичка YO 😜 07:06, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * You haven't shown GNG, simply an interview, one other article and a number of short clippings. As the sources are not in English it would help if you could outline what the sources say and help out a bit more than simply reposting the source search, it's not possible for many of us to separate routine transfer talk and match reporting from genuine significant coverage. I am happy to change my vote if this can be shown and take your word on the content of articles, but per WP:BURDEN, not only am I not able to do so because of the language barrier, I am not obligated to. Fenix down (talk) 07:22, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * But it's your duty to actually do a search before you declare someone doesn't meet GNG. Also any literate person can tell whether an article is about the subject even if you can't actually read it (esp using Google Chrome or browser with built in translation). I search for sources all the time in languages I can't read, so I don't see why you're "not able to so," unless you are also blind, in which case I'm sorry for your affliction.  —Мандичка YO 😜 08:03, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per Мандичка passes WP:GNG through it fails WP:NFOOTY and also this article in Bulgarian Wikipedia.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 11:29, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 15:24, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. The sources cited include one interview and several individually-focused news pieces on the subject. I find the sources from the Bulgarian article unconvincing because they focus on the team, but the sources cited in this discussion focus specifically on the player. That's enough for GNG. agt x  17:49, 23 July 2015 (UTC)


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