Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yara Sofia


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The result was keep. General consensus to keep. (NAC) (non-admin closure) Nightfury 13:17, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Yara Sofia

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Zero notably fails WP:BIO. Fails WP:SIGCOV. Many dead references, the rest are name drops.  scope_creep Talk  10:35, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to RuPaul's Drag Race ETA: got here via list of women-related deletion discussions. valereee (talk) 14:44, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
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 * Comment What metric are you using to measure notability? Seems way too subjective and the WP:BIO page does little to actually explain what is expected. But, should we slavishly adhere to WP:BIO, it suggests that entertainers with a large fan base or a significant "cult" following are notable. Yara Sofia has a large fan base. Lack of active cites is concerning, however. Ausymptote (talk) 21:10, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, like every other on Wikipedia, the facts must be shown to be true. Find reliable secondary sources from third parties that describe the large fan base, in an impartial manner, and the article will be show be notable. This is my last comment on this.  scope_creep Talk  21:25, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It is a bit subjective. The coverage needs to be "significant," which most editors understand to mean that an article needs to be about the person or talk about them at length rather than simply listing them or mentioning them. The source needs to be "reliable" which most editors understand to mean at minimum local print or tv media, or if an online-only source, at minimum a major regional/special-interest outlet. Blogs, Youtube, etc. don't count. Straight interviews don't count. And having a large fan base or cult following isn't by itself enough; that fan base or cult following needs to have been talked about, again in a reliable source. So it's not enough for her blog to get lots of hits or her twitter to have lots of followers. Someone has to have MENTIONED the fact her blog has lots of hits or her twitter feed has lots of followers. Someone has to be talking about her/her fans/her cult following at some length in a reliable source. In general many editors will agree that even as few as three such sources shows notability, but that's not a hard-and-fast rule; at that minimum, many editors will want to know that those three sources really are both clearly reliable and provide definitely significant coverage. valereee (talk) 12:22, 19 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment I'd like to just make sure everyone is aware that this topic might be at risk for brigading Oath2order (talk) 22:52, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Yara is a public figure. According to the Wikipedia notability guidelines,Yara falls under all three bullets.
 * Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.
 * Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following.
 * Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment.“


 * Yara has been on multiple tv shows, has a cult following, produces notable stage performances and other products. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OMGshNicholas (talk • contribs) Incorrectly placed at top of page; moved by RebeccaGreen (talk) 05:17, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, unfortunately none of the sources say those things about her. I've gone through all the sources (many of which were dead links, which I removed) and none of them are reliable sources of significant coverage. The ones that are reliable barely mention Sofia, and the ones that give her significant coverage are not reliable. She was on a notable reality/elimination television show twice, but she didn't win either season which means she isn't automatically notable for that. She may very well have a large fan base, but no one is mentioning that it's unusually large for a member of the gay community or for a drag queen. If she's made unique, prolific, or innovative contributions to the field of entertainment, I'm not finding it mentioned in reliable sources. valereee (talk) 17:07, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 11:36, 25 December 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 14:18, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
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 * Weak Delete – I feel that WP:BLP1E may apply here. I may change my vote if people can successfully argue otherwise. ––Redditaddict69 (talk) (contribs)  06:55, 6 January 2019 (UTC) Changing vote to Weak Keep — I feel like there is some coverage to help for GNG in what is mentioned below now but I may revisit later to see if there is enough. The coverage isn’t from any major national publications however this definitely helps to diverge away from BLP1E, my main concern from before. ––<b style="color:#3399FF">Redditaddict69</b> <sup style="color:#339900">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(contribs)  18:27, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello . Given the info below, are you still leaning Weak Delete? I am not sure if you're following this conversation. I'm not incredibly invested in this article, as I didn't follow it and don't believe I've edited it before (I could be wrong on that), but I do think we'd be doing WP a disservice if we aren't looking at all the information available about a subject. Either way, hope you're well. Cheers! --Kbabej (talk) 18:18, 6 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. I don't think the nominator of this article has done their due diligence. A cursory Google search turns up coverage of Yara Sofia as the sole subject in NewNowNext, Seattle Gay News, OutinSA, and Hotspots Magazine, none of which have currently been included in the article (as of me writing this comment). Additional coverage (with Yara not being the sole subject) includes World of Wonder and others. They've appeared on RPDR on two different seasons (winning Miss Congeniality on one of them), guest starred on a third season of RPDR, appeared on the television show Skin Wars, appeared in a video game, had a show at RuPaul's Drag Con, and headlined a NYE party. I think that meets GNG. --Kbabej (talk) 18:13, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Kbabej. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:30, 6 January 2019 (UTC)


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