Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yasmín Ramírez


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Draftify. Liz Read! Talk! 22:06, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Yasmín Ramírez

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Yasmín Ramírez

This biography of a living person fails verifiability because it has no independent references, and has no footnotes. The reference list is only a bibliography. There is also a draft that is almost identical to the article and has been declined as not satisfying author notability. If there were no draft, this article could be moved to draft space for the addition of proper references and for review as to notability. Since there already is a draft, this article should be deleted, and the draft can be left for improvement. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:07, 3 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 08:47, 10 October 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Relisting. Since the author blanked the content of their draft (except AFC notices), the draft has been deleted and this article could be Draftified if the participants choose this option. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 20:00, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Fictional elements, Mexico,  and Texas. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:07, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Footnotes are recommended but not required and editors are not required to use the draft process. Author of a notable book: we could rename this page after the book, but it's better as is, in my opinion. pburka (talk) 02:59, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: here, the author admits to having done WP:PAID or WP:COI (at least) editing. Since it cannot be draftified, this is the best option so the draft can incubate. Asparagusus   (interaction)  03:03, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Kirkus is certainly independent, but that's but one of the listed sources. I'm at a loss as to why this was DELSORT'ed to fictional elements; I suggest it be removed from Fictional Elements and added to Literature. Jclemens (talk) 03:05, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - she has several mentions in independent sources in Spanish as well as in English languages including a mention in the NY Times. Haueirlan (talk) 15:18, 3 October 2022 (UTC) Delete based on the new findings. I confused her with the Art-historian of same name.Haueirlan (talk) 16:01, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:49, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Being an author of one book that is notable per WP:NBOOK is not enough to support an article per WP:AUTHOR, which says the one book should also be a significant or well-known work, and there currently appears to be no support for this part of the guideline. Multiple reviews help make the book notable, but more is needed to make the author notable. Also, the 2017 NYT passing mention noted above does not appear to be referring to writer and associate professor Yasmín Ramírez. I am not !voting yet because I have not completed research for additional sources. Beccaynr (talk) 01:05, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are correct. She is a different person. Haueirlan (talk) 15:58, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Draftify as WP:TOOSOON. I searched online, at GNews, and at the Wikipedia Library, and have been updating the article as I go. I am not sure there is currently enough to support notability for her debut book, and have not found sufficient support for author or other notability guideline. Art historian and curator Yasmin Ramírez may be notable, based on sources I found. Beccaynr (talk) 02:32, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete TOOSOON. The Kirkus review is the only one I see that's not from a book seller's site. She'll likely get more reviews, but not quite there yet for GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 20:27, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment. If draftified, I'll try to adapt it into a page about her book using sources such as Kirkus, Hip Latina, and KTSM. I think those are sufficient for WP:NBOOK. pburka (talk) 20:29, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I have changed my !vote above per pburka. Beccaynr (talk) 20:35, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Draftify as too soon. There is WP:POTENTIAL here and it's worth preserving in some state, but isn't appropriate for Wikipedia mainspace at this time. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:40, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Procedural note: The page author has moved this to Draft:Yasmín Ramírez. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:58, 22 October 2022 (UTC) has been reversed by an admin Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:09, 22 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.