Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yassin Karim


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The result was withdrawn. (non-admin closure) SK2242 (talk) 12:53, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Yassin Karim

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY. PROD tag removed by creator, who claims Iraqi league is fully-pro (which isn't so per current evaluation) Withdrawing this nomination due to new sources.BlameRuiner (talk) 10:14, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:16, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:24, 15 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - sources fail to establish notability; one of them was an announcement that he doesn't want to play a match, the rest were just routine announcements (e.g. signing a new contract). None showed WP:SIGCOV. Spiderone  11:07, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * As Iraqi Premier League is now listed at WP:FPL, I am striking my comment Spiderone  18:36, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 12:33, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

How does he fail the criteria when the criteria is that he needs to play at least one professional game and the articles show that he has played professional games. Do you think that an article will be written about a player who refused to play a game if it wasn't notable? I.E if a player who never played, no one will be writing an article about that. Also, how is the Iraqi league not fully pro when they participate in the Asian Champions League, which has a rule that the league needs to be fully professional in order to qualify a team, and given the fact that you know, it's fully professional as all players have a contract with a club and are paid, making it a professional league. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alitheboss55 (talk • contribs) 13:39, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If you believe that the Iraqi league is fully professional and can provide appropriate sources then please start a discussion at the appropriate place, which is WT:FPL Spiderone  13:46, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

I seem to have found the confusion, the mistranslation of sources used to classify the league as "not professional". The word translated as professional actually means foreign, as in Arabic the word for foreign players is the same as professional players. The Asian Football Federation, as shown in it's Entry Manual for AFC Club Competitions (2021 Edition) in article 4 says that Member Associations must meet all of the ACL Criteria as set out below in order to obtain direct slots for the ACL: The relevant criteria, Article 4.1.4 says; Organisation of Professional Football League. As you can see by 2020 AFC Champions League Iraq had a direct spot to the ACL, meaning that they have satisfied Artcile 4.1.4, meaning that the Iraqi premier league is a fully professional football league. I cant seem to figure out how to cite a pdf but if you google the entry manual and click on the link provided by the website of the Asian football federation you can clearly check it out for yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alitheboss55 (talk • contribs) 13:53, 15 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Do not Delete

Based on the evidence provided above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alitheboss55 (talk • contribs) 14:09, 15 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Do not Delete

If no one else has any objections, I would like to remove the notice as the Iraqi premier league has been reclassified as a pro league in Wikipedia's list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alitheboss55 (talk • contribs) 14:05, 19 December 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   17:54, 22 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment: Due to recent reassessment of Iraqi league (now considered fully-pro since 2019/20 season), I'm ready to withdraw my nomination if a source is added to the article that clearly shows him playing in Iraqi league since 2019/20 season. So far, finding the squads for Iraqi league matches have been problematic (most websites only list scores and goalscorers). --BlameRuiner (talk) 22:41, 22 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment: Reference added, the article states that he conceded a "rocket from Saad Abdul Emir" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alitheboss55 (talk • contribs) 10:07, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Please sign your posts. SK2242 (talk) 12:51, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


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