Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yekaterina Duntsova


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. If editors are interested in renaming this article, please start a discussion on the article talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 22:01, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Yekaterina Duntsova

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It looks like an advertisement for a potential presidential candidate. WP:POLITICIAN states that just being an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability. The article on the same topic was deleted in Russian Wikipedia due to the same reasons FlorianH76 (talk) 21:07, 17 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep: Her candidacy is the direct subject of several articles, so she meets the notability criteria for Wikipedia. JohnR1Roberts (talk) 21:36, 17 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. Should satisfy WP:SIGCOV given multiple news about her 2024 presidential campaign in the context of Russia, where she probably is the lone opposition to Putin, other candidates are loyal to him.  Delta  space 42 (talk • contribs) 22:21, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Also I would like to add that while being an unelected candidate does not guarantee notability, it also does not guarantee non-notability:
 * "Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the general notability guideline."  Delta  space 42 (talk • contribs) 22:29, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep She appeared on the biggest german news show just now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi3ljQXB0qQ&t=471). We should also be careful about state actors trying to act here. Scisne (talk) 23:00, 17 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. The subject of the article clearly has significance. Many reliable sources wrote about Yekaterina Duntsova (Reuters, The Moscow Times, BNN Breaking, AP News and many others), describing her as Putin's main opponent in the upcoming elections. She passed the first stage of registration, collected the necessary 500 signatures, and held a meeting in Moscow. This was covered by the Russian federal media (Kommersant, news.ru). The article about Duntsova in the Russian Wikipedia was deleted with obvious bias and is an example of political censorship. --Yarkovesh (talk) 23:18, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The only problem is that everyone found out about her existence just yesterday 178.252.127.236 (talk) 11:03, 20 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Women, Journalism, Law,  and Russia.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:20, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Draftify Generally, we've considered coverage of candidacy to a political office as WP:ROUTINE and we regularly delete articles about unelected candidates if they don't have any WP:SIGCOV beyond that related to their candidacy, which seems to be the case here. Even if we cast that general precedent aside, this would still be an issue of WP:BLP1E. As it is, Duntsova is only a declared - not a qualified - candidate (she needs a further 300,000 petition signatures to be ballot listed). Nonetheless, it's possible Duntsova may become ballot qualified and, subsequently, may emerge as the leading challenger in the upcoming election and, if all that transpired, it would most probably be enough to surmount my concerns about ROUTINE and BLP1E since a principal challenger is almost certain to attract coverage of such biographical depth and complexity as to crest those standards. However, it's too early in the petitioning process to ascertain that so this may be a case of WP:TOOSOON. Therefore, I !vote in favor of draftifying the article with no prejudice against its future recreation if the situation evolves or changes. Chetsford (talk) 00:09, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, it seems to be a good decision. FlorianH76 (talk) 01:54, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * This article needs to stay. Yekaterina Duntsova is the most important person of our time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:3037:611:6570:F6C5:FFB6:CA37:E51C (talk) 12:30, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * We need this article to maintain freedom. Alxklg (talk) 07:30, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * But no one really knows who she is, even in Russia 178.252.127.236 (talk) 10:49, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep: you can mention that the official start of Ekaterina's election campaign took place yesterday. Over 700 supporters gathered in Moscow to express their support for her candidacy. The initiative group of 522 people also voted in favor of Ekaterina's nomination. The meeting was successful, despite some questionable incidents that did not affect the course of the event. Currently, Ekaterina has the support of over 110,000 people. The Telegram channel has about 150 thousand people. Has an article in the Belarusian Wikipedia and the Ukrainian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.59.206.179 (talk) 04:54, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * More people studied with me on the same faculty lol 178.252.127.236 (talk) 11:00, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Clearly satisfies general notability guidelines of significant coverage in reliable sources. --Grnrchst (talk) 15:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per arguments by Grnrchst and Yarkovesh. -- Andrew Krizhanovsky (talk) 15:26, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep it please. People want to find the information about her. I was disappointed not to find an article about her in Russian and was happy to find some information in English at least. 85.166.86.183 (talk) 22:15, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep: I agree that running for office does not automatically meet notability but in this case there are plenty of sources. This is a national campaign of a major country, and she is publically standing up against a controversial government. She clearly meets notability. Rublamb (talk) 22:29, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete. No one knows her. This is clearly just an attempt to draw attention and create a facade for non-existent career and political weight. 178.252.127.236 (talk) 10:57, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ekaterina Duntsova's presence in the social media realm is far from negligible, boasting a following of 320,000 people — a number that continues to climb swiftly. To say that 'no one knows her' seems a stark underestimation of her growing popularity. Galstenreg (talk) 17:17, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Move to Yekaterina Duntsova 2024 presidential campaign. Devil's advocate, but I think we're putting anti-Putinist emotions (which I do sympathize with) over well-established policy. The well-established policy is WP:BLP1E, and this person clearly fails it. That being said, I do think notability has been established for her presidential campaign, and thusly this page should be kept but moved. Queen   of   Hearts ❤️  (she/they 🎄 🏳️‍⚧️) 05:30, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "Devil's advocate" Yarkovesh (talk) 13:43, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It does not fall under this rule because all three points must be considered.
 * About the third point.
 * Ekaterina Duntsova has a clear path in life - she worked as a journalist (editor-in-chief of RIT) and was a deputy in the City Duma. Now she is reaching a new level of fame, a lot is being written and talked about in Russian-speaking (especially independent) and English-speaking media.
 * To say that there is only one event associated with her or that she is insignificant is strange. 185.70.52.115 (talk) 20:18, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Just to point out the one that has mentioned delete has an IP inside Russia, a little obvious I think from Putins propaganda machine of silencing critics and opposition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.70.87.161 (talk) 00:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Authoritative media pay a lot of attention to her. К.Артём.1 (talk) 09:47, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. There is more than enough news coverage. Mellk (talk) 12:54, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep: I also agree that running for office does not automatically meet notability but as above there are plenty of sources including news / media outlets and social media it now does, especially standing up to Putin. Yekaterina, a very brave woman, and now very much notable, with her stance on Anti-War and bringing Russia back from the brink.


 * quite ironic to be critical to the anon from the UK to claim that out. not every russian liberals' critics are from the propaganda machine, as one user was merely questioned Yekaterina's notability. — 95.24.32.118 (talk) 16:44, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. She's been written up in The Independent, The Moscow Times, Reuters, AP News, ABC News, and Stars and Stripes. How much more notable can someone be???  HandsomeMrToad (talk) 02:10, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep Wikipedia has a neutral POV and articles should not be deleted because someone is not happy with the facts. Lotje (talk) 12:51, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep She got blocked from the election process but got covered by the BBC, still pretty notable.--Catlemur (talk) 15:42, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep A lot of coverage about her the last days, meeting WP:GNG. That the page is deleted from the Russian Wikipedia is not a valid reason for deletion here. 109.37.156.249 (talk) 22:45, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - as she has gained coverage from the Associated Press about her denial from the candidacy. Ivan Milenin (talk) 00:11, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep far than enough coverage, especially now that Putin is up to his old tricks and repressing the subject's presidential candidacy. There has been a fair bit of news on the subject as of today alone. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 02:17, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per most of the above. Clearly notable as there are more than enough sources talking about her. 🛧 Midori No Sora♪ 🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈  ) 10:13, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep for reasons given above by colleagues--Noel baran (talk) 12:21, 24 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.