Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yemane Niguse


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Participants are evenly divided, both numerically and from a strength-of-argument perspective, and a fourth relist is unlikely to change that. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:19, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Yemane Niguse

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Fails GNG. Might have been G5 eligible but not totally sure. Noah 💬 17:48, 1 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Question for User:-noah-: What does "G5 eligible" mean, please? BushelCandle (talk) 12:37, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Eligible for G5 speedy deletion.--🌀 Kieran207 - talk 🌀 22:02, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry for not making the exact extent of my ignorance clearer, Kieran207, but I think I understand the "eligible for speedy deletion part" - it's the G5 jargon that has me nonplussed: where can I find exactly this (presumed) G5 rule or whatever? (A link or URL would assist my education...) BushelCandle (talk) 09:26, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The full policy can be found at WP:G5.--🌀 Kieran207 - talk 🌀 10:40, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your speedy response and for those great links, Kieran207. If I have understood those pages correctly, I have deduced that this article is NOT eligible for a G5 deletion because it it has substantial edits by others - specifically 12 others (including myself). --BushelCandle (talk) 11:39, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  Noah  💬 17:48, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions.  Noah  💬 17:48, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ethiopia-related deletion discussions.  Noah  💬 17:48, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:16, 1 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete - Not enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG, and doesn't pass WP:NPOL. The only sources which give any coverage about him are about his assassination, which would fall under WP:BIO1E. Onel 5969  TT me 20:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. The coverage for WP:GNG needs to take into account the demographic bias of en.Wikipedia editors and sources. We have a mainstream Ethiopian media source, Borkena, that reports on Yemane and his leadership of a group opposed to the former dominating party in Ethiopia, the TPLF; this is not only about the assassination itself. We have a major Oromo media source, Kichuu, reporting on Yemane being sufficiently independent that several groups disliked his leadership of part of the Tigrayan opposition. Both mainstream sources state that Yemane was killed for his political activities. The mainstream sources are currently reasonably widely used in en.Wikipedia for Ethiopia-related topics, showing that many editors consider these reliable, even though nobody has created the sources' Wikipedia articles yet; the red linking is reasonably associated with the systematic demographic bias on en.Wikipedia. WP:BIO1E is only about the question of whether the article on a noticeable person/event should be rather on the person or rather on the event; it's not an argument to delete the overall topic. Keep in mind that since early November 2020 the Tigray War with a near-total blockade on most forms of communication has been in place. This is not the UK.Wikipedia or the US.Wikipedia; this is an English language encyclopedia aimed to cover information about the whole world. Boud (talk) 21:04, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * If he's so notable, then find the sources! This Isn't about bias, this is about an article that doesn't comply with WP:V, who's subject fails GNG.--🌀 Kieran207 - talk 🌀 22:02, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Further focus on sources brought up later during the discussion may help generate a consensus.
 * Keep. Boud is spot-on in highlighting the demographic bias of en.Wikipedia editors and sources and the existence of coverage in mainstream Ethiopian media sources that have a limited web and English language presence. The suspicion of many in the region is that Yemane Niguse was notable enough to warrant assassination to prevent his influence growing further. BushelCandle (talk) 12:28, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — MarkH21talk 13:57, 9 April 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vaticidalprophet 15:03, 17 April 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete My search turned up nothing outside of what was in the article already. Likely a non-notable activist that only received attention for dying. And before you talk about my bias, FIND THE SOURCES. If sources for him exist in a language I don't understand, then find them and add them to the article.--🌀 Kieran207 - talk 🌀 01:07, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Cocnur with ; claim that WP:BIO1E applies is incorrect, Niguse's role prior to his assassination is notable, evidenced by reporting of the Fenkil Movement. It's also reasonable in this case to take account of the censorship restrictions in place and the difficulty in finding multiple sourcing to overwhelmingly satisfy the GNG. Regards,--Goldsztajn (talk) 22:59, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kichu🐘 Need any help? 19:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

*Delete Not notable enough. Doesn't comply with WP:Notability (politics). Ragmuffin-AGASTOPIA (talk) 19:52, 26 April 2021 (UTC) strike sock--  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:31, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment One of these exceptionally difficult AfDs where it's nearly impossible to make a determination based on English sources and available non-English sources. Failing NPOL doesn't mean you can't otherwise be notable. Going only by the sources in the article, he probably does fail WP:BIO1E, but the sources aren't so bad that a neutral article can't be written about him. If there's anything else written on him, which wouldn't be in English, he's probably notable enough for an article. I don't find myself agreeing with the delete !voters, but can't defend a source-based keep !vote due to the difficulties in finding sources. SportingFlyer  T · C  21:01, 28 April 2021 (UTC)


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