Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yichud


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep per WP:SNOW.   GARDEN  21:33, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Yichud

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Article appears to consist of a single sentence's worth of content - most succinctly written as traditionally, seclusion of a man and woman together in the same room on their own (Hebrew:Yichud), was forbidden, in Judaism, unless they were married to each other. Everything else is either repetition or a general point not specific to Yichud. Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, attitudes to Yichud are the same as their respective general attitudes to halacha - their conclusion about Yichud is self-evident, and doesn't need stating in its own article. There isn't enough here to merit more than a single sentence in Tzeniut (modesty), and/or other related topics.

This article has been around for over a year, and that's still all of the content, so I'd have to conclude that there's nothing more to say about it - that there isn't anything that makes Yichud worth writing a whole article about.


 * Therefore delete. I can be (fairly easily) persuaded to change my view if someone is able to add notable content to the article - and does so - that is about things distinct to Yichud. However, at the present time, I'm of the opinion that such things do not exist. Newman Luke (talk) 16:33, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions.  —Newman Luke (talk) 16:58, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions.  —Newman Luke (talk) 16:58, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions.  —Newman Luke (talk) 16:58, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Significant concept in Jewish law. There is no such thing as being too detailed. there are hundreds of historical commentaries on the concept. the discussion of it in the Talmud can be found in several tractates:  Yeb. San., Kid.  and  very extensively in Soteh. It would be easier for those more expert than I to do the expansion, .  The article needs great expansion, but the nomination ignores rather remarkably the extent of Jewish legal discussions on minute issues, even among the Orthodox,  More generally, we  do not remove articles because nobody has recently added to them. The applicable policy is NO DEADLINE.    DGG ( talk ) 17:24, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep This is basic Judaism. The article needs expanding. I've restored important material to the article. It may have the very serious flaw of being unsourced. But tentatively it should be left up. More knowledgeable editors than myself can probably cite some sources for assertions found there. Please see my comments just added to the article's Talk page. Bus stop (talk) 17:34, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Yichud is a fundamental principle in Judaism, consisting of more than just a sentence's worth of information. The argument that this article is not up to par content-wise is no basis to delete -- merely to stubbify it and tag it for expansion.  It may be that the initial and subsequent editors are unaware of places from which to derive information.  Let's wrap this up with a speedy keep  DRosenbach  ( Talk 19:41, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep There are entire books on the subject. Jon513 (talk) 19:43, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Notable beyond any reasonable doubt for reasons explained by DGG. Article does need to be cleaned up, however. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 19:52, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.