Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yll Hoxha


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. — Jake   Wartenberg  02:11, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Yll Hoxha

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Appears to fail WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. All refs are passing mentions at best. Contested PROD. Spiderone 08:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Spiderone  08:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. GiantSnowman 10:26, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Professional player in one of the best clubs in Finland! Does not fail WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. --SM (talk) 13:09, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment The player being professional is irrelevant in terms of WP:ATHLETE and playing for "one of the best clubs in Finland" is equally useless in this case. Spiderone  17:49, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think it is useless. Being a professional is more notable than being in the club with youth contract, and playing in one of the best clubs is also no-useless because the top clubs play in the European international club competitions which are more notable. --SM (talk) 21:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:24, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per nom. GauchoDude (talk) 23:55, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.  -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:25, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:26, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, looks like he is someone "who ha[s] competed at the fully professional level of a sport". Nyttend (talk) 20:50, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * This is still up for debate Spiderone  20:58, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep playing in a notable top-level European league Eldumpo (talk) 21:33, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Saying the league is "notable top-level" is POV. Also, just because the league is "notable" doesn't mean that the players are. Notability for clubs and leagues are generally more lenient. For example, Sutton United is a notable club in a notable league but none of the players are worthy of a page. I would be willing to settle for a redirect if anyone can agree. Spiderone  08:07, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep: Professional player in one of the best clubs in Finland. Ret.Prof (talk) 21:41, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * But the club or the league is irrelevant as neither is fully-pro. The player himself doesn't seem to be notable as there are only passing mentions and the usual bog-standard player profiles that any player could get. Spiderone  07:16, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Playing at a fully professional level. WP:ATH does not require every team/player in the league he competes to be fully pro. DavidDublin (talk) 13:07, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:ATHLETE. Steve-Ho (talk) 18:15, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete He seems notable enough to be in the Finnish version of Wikipedia, but is no where near notable enough to be included in the English version. Govvy (talk) 15:19, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
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