Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yo Momma (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. ✗ plicit  14:08, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Yo Momma
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Previously kept in 2017 per WP:SOURCESEXIST, but most of the sources are trivial mentions or 404. Could find nothing better Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:58, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:58, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Very interesting article, but not necessary. ArdynOfTheAncients (talk) 15:22, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * This comment doesn't make any sense. NemesisAT (talk) 11:16, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @ArdynOfTheAncients Your argument seems to be based on WP:IDONTLIKEIT and WP:ITSNOTUSEFUL. — Mythdon ( talk  •  contribs ) 01:59, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The review notes: "The most brain-dead show on cable television right now is "Yo Momma" on MTV. The show pits the best "clowners" (MTV's word, not mine) from across Los Angeles, representing their districts, battling each other for the title of best trash-talker in the city. Wilmer Valderrama, the host of the show, speaks in a phony Hispanic accent to show how hard he is. ... Wilmer also has help from several judges who rate the contestants on crucial categories such as delivery, energy and the all important sting(!)."  The review notes: "Recently, MTV debuted a new reality series entitled "Yo Momma" ostensibly inspired by the sort of braggadocio found not only in 8 Mile, but in the average hip-hop music video. Picture an unplugged version of gangsta rap, trash talk sans samples and beats, where all you hear is the loudmouth shouting.  ... Though only on the air for a few weeks, the show has already shot up the charts, and presently enjoys the third highest rating among all cable programs in the coveted teen demographic. Given its sudden popularity, I decided to check out an episode and was frankly quite shocked at the offensive repartee, which struck me as almost deliberately designed to antagonize and inflame along ethnic lines, especially the insensitive barbs aimed at blacks by white participants."<li> The book notes: "I have attempted to overcome the problem by drawing modern data from the TV shows Yo Momma, which ran on MTV in 2006–2008, and ... Yo Momma is a reality television game show which features verbal contests of adolescent boys and girls strikingly similar to those described by Labov and other scholars of the dozens. In its advertising campaign, Yo Momma is marketed as real-life verbal battles among lower-class urban kids, conveniently shot on camera in their traditional hang-out locations in New York, Atlanta, and Los Angeles. The show is brought into an improvised studio in a run-down depot only for the final round. Therefore, producers endow it with almost ethnographic recording-like value."</li> <li> The article notes: "As the host and creator of MTV's new reality series "Yo Momma," a no-holds-barred competition that pits Southern California's toughest jokesters against one another, Mr. Valderrama has had to think a lot about such matters lately. "Yo mamma is so fat" jokes are the backbone of his new series, which celebrates put-downs once reserved for schoolyard recesses. ... "Yo Mamma," to be shown weekdays at 6 p.m., has its debut tonight. ... The show's early round resembles an insult battle royal, with contestants verbally destroying one another in a free-for-all, with jokes ranging from the comical to the absurd"</li><li> The article notes: "I'm thinking specifically of "Yo Momma," the MTV show on which contestants snipe and hurl nasty insults at each other as the crowd encircling them eggs them on. I caught a snippet of "Yo Momma" last week, and it makes for voyeuristic entertainment for the first few jokes. Then after a few minutes, if you're someone other than an adolescent boy who finds humor in those base "yo momma so fat" insults, you click the remote, knowing there is something more substantial on television you could be viewing."</li><li> The article notes: "MTV has given the green light to "Yo Momma," a trash-talking comedy competition series created and hosted by Wilmer Valderrama. The cable network has ordered 20 episodes of the show, which features Valderrama searching the country for the funniest trash-talkers to battle in each episode for a cash prize of $1,000 and the chance to move forward in an overall tournament. "Yo Momma" will air daily in the afternoons for four consecutive weeks starting in the first quarter."</li><li> The article notes: "After the success of its first season on MTV, the TV series "Yo Momma" has been picked up by the U.S. cable network for a third season on the air. The series, which features contestants using mother jokes as a weapon, had been optioned by MTV for a third season prior to Monday's launch of the comedy's second season, said The New York Daily News."</li><li> The article notes: "Yo Momma. Two contestants get to diss one another on this show hosted, directed, and written by Wilmer Valderrama of That '70s Show. This show seems stupid at first, although once you watch it, you can see how funny the disses are, and how competitive the contestants are. Wilmer and his posse decide who wins the $1,000 prize."</li><li> The article notes: "At the time, "Yo Momma" was a popular show on MTV hosted by Wilmer Valderrama, where the best trash-talkers across America insulted each other's mother through a series of intense battles that usually took place near a chain-linked fence."</li></ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Yo Momma to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 08:35, 30 April 2022 (UTC) </li></ul> Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   20:17, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep Sources shared by Cunard establish notability per WP:GNG. NemesisAT (talk) 11:16, 2 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep per the sources provided by Cunard, with more than satisfy WP:V and WP:GNG.— Mythdon ( talk  •  contribs ) 01:58, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per sources posted by Cunard. FozzieHey (talk) 17:52, 7 May 2022 (UTC)


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