Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yodayagya


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The result was   delete. Black Kite (t)  00:43, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Yodayagya

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Declined speedy as blatant hoax/vandalism. There appear to be no reliable sources documenting this name, meaning that it's not notable. It could be a hoax, or at least a neologism. It could also be an attack page of some sort since yodaya may be a derogatory term for Thailand (per Google news archive search results). Or it might be a content fork from Rohingya people (see the talk page comments). Needs more eyes on it, anyway. —S MALL JIM   14:12, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

I am a Burmese living in Thailand and familiar with the word Yodayagya. It is used between Burmese refugees when they are "joking" themselves after facing their severe conditions in Thailand. It is just a slang used by them. After the popularity of the word "Rohingya", they referred themselves as "Yodayagya"- (or the Rohingya of Thailand).

I do not think that it is an attack page for Thai people as "yodaya" is not a derogatory term of Thailand. If you ask all Burmese, they will say that "yodaya" is a normal colloquial word for "Thai/Thailand". It is an archaic word used for Thai/Thailand. Burmese call "Tayoke" for China, it is normal word like "Yodaya". The word "Kala" is an attack word for Indians- meaning dark-skinned people (However, originally "Kala" derived from "Kula", high and noble race, i.e, Indian).

However, the origin of the word "yodaya" is disputable. Burmese regime propaganda books said that "yodaya" derived from "ayudhaya" (the city that could not be conquered). the regime interpreted that ancient Burmese people deleted one word "a" from "ayudhaya"- making it "yudhaya" (which means- the city that could be conquered - possibly by the Burmese). But, it is just an interpretation of the Burmese military regime. That definition of the word "yodaya" only appeared while there was border tensions between Burma and Thailand. Normally, "yodaya" was used by all class of Burmese citizens just referring to the country of Thailand and Thai people. When they use "yodaya", there is no DEROGATORY sense at all.

I do not know this slang word "Yodayagya", an imitation of "Rohingya" (which is created by Burmese refugees) has the right to be mentioned in wikipedia or not. Any way, according to a paragraph of the top box, I tried to fix a little bit about "Yodayagya" or Burmese migrant workers in Thailand. The human rights abuse on them such as not allowing them to drive motorbikes and to ride bicycles are ridiculous activities of Thai government.

Thank you Smalljim. (Zulumien) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zulumien (talk • contribs) 16:40, 6 November 2011 (UTC)  — Zulumien (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Thailand-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 17:48, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Zulumien, that's useful information - I'm sure it will help us come to a decision. Since the article appears to be about Burmese migrant workers in Thailand, maybe if it can be properly referenced it could be moved to Burmese people in Thailand (similar to Burmese people in Japan and Burmese people in Pakistan), or failing that some content could be added to Burmese diaspora. —S MALL JIM   18:14, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

To Smalljim, If Burmese immigrants in Thailand need to be marked as "Burmese people in Thailand", then, why couldn't we change this article title to be "Bengali Immigrants in Myanmar"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_people — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.17.228 (talk) 11:27, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Just noticed this, sorry. The difference is that there are plenty of reliable sources that confirm that the word rohingya is in common use. —S MALL  JIM   14:49, 22 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, → Σ  τ  c . 00:21, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete as nominator. Although the topic (Burmese people in Thailand) might be notable, this term is not. —S MALL  JIM   17:02, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete The term Yodayagya is nothing more than a joke. ShweNyarThar (talk) 08:40, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Move should move the whole article to Burmese people in Thailand or Burmese migrant workers in Thailand Danielgoma (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:34, 22 November 2011 (UTC).
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