Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yohai Aharoni (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Just noting for the record that the previous AFD was about a different person with the same name. Liz Read! Talk! 04:28, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Yohai Aharoni
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only source in article is a database. fails notability guidelines for sportspeople. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 14:19, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

i got WP:HEY'd. again. anyway, i withdraw my nomination statement. i can't close this because others have voted to delete/redirect this. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 13:17, 15 September 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Policy based input would be helpful. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star   Mississippi  01:59, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football,  and Israel. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 14:19, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: for anyone else experiencing confusion while looking for sources, the subject currently being discussed is the footballer born in 1943, and not the יוחאי אהרוני who was born in 1986, whose article has already been deleted. Cheers, Gilded Snail (talk) 15:12, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:56, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:11, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. A former player in the Israeli national team. Not as a bencher. Scored the second and final goal of Israel against India in the 1964 AFC Asian Cup, a cup that Israel won. Also important in the Israeli top tier. Sources exist. For example here. gidonb (talk) 00:47, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to 1964 AFC Asian Cup: not enough significant coverage to be notable for an article. –– FormalDude  (talk)  21:50, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment. This AfD is already open for a week but no valid rationale for deletion has yet been brought forward. As a successful player on Israel's national football team (he contributed a goal toward its only Asia Cup), Aharoni is very notable. He was successful also in Israel's prime league. So much that POLITICAL pressure was used to get Aharoni to change sides and three specific players were offered if he would only move. That's a very NONROUTINE story for a professional footballer! The entire nomination appears extremely random. Which player is next to be nominated under such RANDOM criteria?! gidonb (talk) 22:28, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * And to the gentle call of the relister below to state under which guideline the article should be kept: WP:SPORTBASIC #6 #5. Maybe also the place to explain what happened to the sources. There is one great source, that is now a reference in the article. We have access to this source only because of Aharoni's IMPORTANCE as a player. Aharoni was curated at the Museum of Hapoel Petach Tikva which carries a non-routine article about the player, at any scale. The Israeli national newspaper archive contains mostly the issues of Maariv, international Jewish, and some immigrant newspapers. Maariv is historically a moderate right-wing newspaper. Aharoni, during most of his career, was a player in labor-affiliated sports teams. Left or left-leaning newspapers are not in the archives. Also, ALL sports dailies miss from this archive. The museum had an article from a sports daily possibly found (difficult!) among the physical papers at the Tel Aviv Central Library. Since accessibility to historic Israeli newspapers is so bad, important Israeli players, such as recently a Maccabi Netanya oldtimer, are routinely kept without references. No need here as WP:SPORTBASIC #6 #5 is met. gidonb (talk) 11:02, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Another reference talks about Aharoni's induction in his team's star boulevard. Rather than SIGCOV, as the reference above, this source talks straight to the NOTABILITY of the winger. gidonb (talk) 12:55, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "WP:SPORTBASIC #6"? It has four bullet points and they aren't numbered, so I'm genuinely confused about which policy you're pointing to. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 13:20, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * We both miscounted. Fixed on my end. gidonb (talk) 15:18, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Whoops! Thanks for clarifying. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 15:45, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Copying the comment I left when deProding the article: "This website has about two paragraphs on an Israeli soccer player, born 1943, with the same name (so probably the same guy), and a comment on that article by someone says "I will never forget the headline in the newspaper: "A star in the name of the national team, the Israeli Yohai Aharoni."" Additionally, that website has a Hebrew newspaper clipping which they say is on him here." BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:56, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep -, Per everything above. Clearly was significant figure in Israeli football. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 15:38, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.