Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yolandi Visser


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The result was a snowball close as keep. This is only going to end one way. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 03:37, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Yolandi Visser

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Borderline notability based on teasing things out of sources that are primarily about something else, and the subject appears to want the article removed. We would normally accede to a request to remove where the subject is not slam-dunk notable, and I think that is the case here, any notability is certainly not conferred by membership of Die Antwoord, but the part in Chappie may eventually result in the significant independent coverage that is currently lacking in the cited sources. Guy (Help!) 14:26, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Topic appears to meet the GNG. Per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE the request for deletion only applies to "non-public" figures, so I don't think her request matters here (a performer is a public figure in general AFAIK) even if it is her requesting the deletion (which I don't think we know, it could be a troll).   I think I'm pretty firmly in the keep side for now but I'll come back and look at deletion arguments later in case I'm missing something. Hobit (talk) 16:02, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, also meets WP:MUSICBIO. Hobit (talk) 11:29, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - I think GNG are met. There are enough reliable secondary sources out there that covers her music.  Granted, it may not be a 'slam-dunk notable' but I think there is certainly enough out there to warrant an article.  -Xcuref1endx (talk) 17:08, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per above, really. Seems to be a notable public figure with plenty of discussion in sources. —  Earwig   talk 17:21, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Definitely seems notable to me.&#42;Treker (talk) 18:32, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Definitely notable. I think you're missing a few things.  A guy with an obvious COI comes in to "fix" the article for his friend.  People try to give him advice (some things can be improved) he gets blocked because of his username, comes back with better user name, guts article, makes a ton of edits, people still try to work with him, he makes threats and demands.  This is a typical 'an article about you is not necessarily a good thing' case only apparently they haven't yet read the policies in depth.  There WERE more references/citations, but they were removed by heavy-handed editing on his part.  So what the references say at this point might not show a complete picture. Centerone (talk) 19:14, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Notability is clear.BMK (talk) 19:53, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  /wiae   /tlk  21:27, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to Die Antwoord actually because I would've closed this as a seemingly keep but there's nothing suggesting solid independent notability so it seems she may be best known for the group itself. SwisterTwister   talk  04:36, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Also known for Chappie and was in two other notable bands. Don't see how we get a redirect here: she's got more than enough coverage, though mostly in the context of the one group.  Hobit (talk) 06:15, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep: Decidedly notable for more than one reason and is a public figure. Meets GNG. And echoing events and agreeing with comments above by Centerone. Fylbecatulous talk 11:40, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. To be honest, I had not heard of her until I came across this AFD discussion. However, it does appear that she has received a variety of coverage in reliable sources. See, e.g.. this article in The Guardian. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 16:09, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Adding courtesy corrected url for above link to The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2015/mar/13/die-antwoord-rapper-yolandi-redefining-pink , thanks  Fylbecatulous talk 19:12, 15 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep. Of course keep. Highly notable within certain genres. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 13:17, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep or Redirect to Die Antwoord - Subject is notable, and meets WP:NOTE, however, sources are minimal referring to her as the primary subject. 38.97.88.20 (talk) 17:38, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Meets the requirements of WP:GNG, and appears to meet WP:ENT as well.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   17:41, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep obviously. Well known singer. SatansFeminist (talk) 00:44, 20 March 2016 (UTC)


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