Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yoshika Kimura


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 00:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Yoshika Kimura

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Does not appear to satify criteria for inclusion of humans. While there is one Google news hit, the actuale article doesn't match it? A normal google search returns 58 unique results, none of which I am able to determine set her apart from her contemporaries in the industry. Full admission of mono-linguality here, and caution against re-enforcing cultural bias aside, delete unless reliable sources found. brenneman 00:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Here's a link to the news article, Aaron: http://www.varietyasiaonline.com/content/view/738/1/ It seems she's going to be in the new Takeshi Kitano film. Dekkappai 01:12, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Ahhh... thanks mate. I had tried to search for "Hooray for Kitano" to find that.  I would still like to see something a bit more substantial than a single line about an unreleased film. -  brenneman  01:17, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete If more sources are not forthcoming. Need something to show her position in the movie and the current DVD's are notible.--Dacium 04:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete With only 5 DVDs, not really notable in her field. External link provided does not directly relate to her bio. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dysepsion (talk • contribs) 06:41, 23 February 2007 (UTC).
 * Delete WP:BIO and the lack of google search results and it fails WP:Notability (people). Telly  addict  17:58, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Reluctant Delete I guess I've appointed myself mother hen of these little, unsourced, Japanese pornograpic actress stubs, and made it a large part of my editing activity to regularly go through the list improving and sourcing them as best I can. When I came across Ms. Kimura last week, I held my breath, hoping to find adequate sourcing and evidence of notability before she got put up for deletion. My own policy is not to start an article on a subject until it is already fairly interesting and adequately-sourced. But, since I usually favor improving over deleting, I do what I can when I find these unsourced stubs started on Japanese erotic actresses.
 * I like that you've made the criteria human, rather than Porn, Aaron. One thing that rubs me the wrong way about so many of these Japanese AV idol AfDs is that they are often strictly held to standards built to conform to the Western (i.e. American) porn culture, which is very different from that in Japan. The clear barrier between "Adult" entertainment and entertainment in general, which exists over here is much less present over there. Simply as Adult Video stars, these AV idols are multi-media celebrities in Japan because of the much higher visibility these videos have in Japan compared to their American counterparts. Additionally, an AV model will sometimes already have mainstream media name recognition before she appears in AVs. And often a model who made her name in AVs will cross into mainstream media.
 * Ms. Kimura appears to be just such a subject. She was originally a ballerina. She is a very new AV star, and 5 DVDs listed on Amazon in such a short time is indicative of the beginnings of a notable AV career in Japan. Of these 5 DVDs released, 1 appears not to be "adult," and I suspect (but this is just a guess) that the 4 "Adult" ones only contain nude modeling. The fact that Takeshi Kitano-- a very major Japanese celebrity, and a celebrity in world cinema-- has chosen her to be in his next film suggests that evidence notability will come. The fact that she has an article started at Japanese Wikipedia is another indication that she has some notability in the country. On the other hand, that article is an unsourced stub.
 * (Also, concerning the Google test-- This has been ruled out as a proof of notability, but since it has been brought up, I will point out that the Google search on her name in Japanese (木村佳香) gives "Results 1 - 10 of about 192,000 for 木村佳香")
 * But, all the above taken into consideration, Wikipedia's primary criterion for establishing the notability of humans is, "The person has been a primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works the source of which is independent of the person." I tried, but could find not find this for Ms. Kimura. (The Japanese search did lead me to her homepage, which I've added to the article, as well as several fan/porn sites, but nothing useful as a source.) I strongly suspect that if I were in Japan, I could find evidence of mainstream notability, and I also strongly suspect that such notability standards will be met by Ms. Kimura eventually. Because of this, I will probably save the article in my user space and work on it till it is worth putting on Wikipedia. But, for now, I'll have to reluctantly join in the recommendation for Delete. Dekkappai 18:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete pr0ncruft. Wile E. Heresiarch 01:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment ...too bad the original nomination wasn't so carefully thought out. I'd have had no problem with opposing it then... Dekkappai 01:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions.   -- Neier 00:59, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the List of porn star articles for deletion.   -- Dekkappai 23:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.