Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yoshukai International


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The result was no consensus for deletion, so keeping. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon joe 01:46, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Yoshukai International

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nn comapny Sooonu 17:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * What is an nn comapny? This is an international karate association, the well-known offshoot of a traditional Japanese Association.  It is incidentally incorporated in the US and so is a company.  I agree that this is a very minimal article, but more history will eventually be forthcoming.Pkeets 20:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * NN means non-notable. TRKtv (daaaaah!) 01:48, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment I added some references.Pkeets 15:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,


 * Merge as a paragraph into Yoshukai karate. Not notable otherwise. DGG 02:19, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment There's already a paragraph on this in Yoshukai karate. However, Yoshukai has split and is now two different organizations.  Yoshukai International and US/World Yoshuaki are different styles just as Shito-Ryu and Chito-Ryu are different styles.  If you'll notice, the two Yoshukai organizations settled the use of different titles by means of a lawsuit.  US/World Yoshukai is still very rooted in Japan, but Yoshukai International is very Westernized.  More history will be forthcoming as I have some good books on this subject; however, I don't have time to do it right now. Pkeets 05:51, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Merge as subset of Yoshukai karate; information is not notable enough to warrant its own article. --Mhking 14:50, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Notice that the Chito-ryu site lists Yoshukai and Yoshukai International as separate entities. [ http://www.chitoryu.com/breakaways.htm] You could make the argument that Yoshukai should be considered Chito-ryu just as well as you could argue that Yoshukai International is the same as Yoshuaki.  However, practitioners of the art know they're not the same.  There's a considerable difference in philosophy and application.  Pkeets 03:47, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 *  Merge  - The court case makes it notable, but not that much info & most is about the split. --Nate 18:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, articel has been vastly expanded, still needs some fact checking but generally imroved --Nate 08:36, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment More references and a bit more information now added. Pkeets 23:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I've been poking around a bit. There are articles on less notable branches of Yoshukai existent in Wikipedia.  It seems that if these are suitable for their own article, then Yoshukai International should be also. Pkeets 02:16, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Added a bit more to the article today. Pkeets 05:11, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Worked on this article a bit more today. Note that the categories shown at the bottom of this page do not apply.  This organization should not be classified as a corporation, product, etc.  It is a karate style.Pkeets 23:13, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.