Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yossi Gestetner


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The result was   delete. slakr \ talk / 23:11, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Yossi Gestetner

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Lack of notability. In addition, the article is written as a promotion, and sources violate WP:SYN KDLarsen (talk) 14:32, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Too Soon. The sources are mostly by the subject. Those not are a few quotes in a few sources in NY. I admit not to doing much research in Hebrew in case any might exist there. The problem here is determining how notable this subject is within the NY Jewish community and the amount of sourcing and a previous version of the article which had peacock makes me think the case is overstated. However willing to listen to more informed opinion. -- Green  C  21:38, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak delete: from the few Yiddish-language sources available online, none of which are R eliable (blogs, forums, etc.), Gestetner seems to be a well-known activist in the Hasidic community of New York. (Theoretically, I should have heard of him before, but I have not.) However, the more reliable Ultra-Orthodox newspapers that may have sufficient coverage of him (Der Yid, Der Blatt, and Di Tzeitung in Yiddish and Hamodia and possibly Yated in English) are completely unavailable online—so unless another Wikipedian incorporates said hypothetical write-ups as sources to the article, we will have nothing but my vague guesses to go by. ( I recall that you often use Hamodia as a source (more so than any other editor, in any case); would you possibly be able to help here?)  הסרפד  (call me Hasirpad) 01:16, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Any thoughts on how far this Jewish Press article (?) goes toward notability? הסרפד  (call me Hasirpad) 01:21, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - Hasirpad, that article does a lot to prove Gestetner's notability, as do dozens of other sources in the article. He clearly meets WP:BASIC and WP:GNG. Shalom11111 (talk) 15:30, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * We need multiple instances of in-depth coverage; even if more articles covering Gestetner's intent to run for congress were found, I think it would fall short per WP:BLP1E. As for the other sources (numbering per [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yossi_Gestetner&oldid=597724047 this revision]), here is a detailed analysis:
 * 1: absolutely unreliable;
 * 2, 3, 4: articles by Gestetner (he is a journalist, after all)
 * 5 (p. 3) dedicates one and a half short paragraphs to him
 * 6, 7: passing mentions (7's detailed-sounding title is from Gestetner's website)
 * 8: dead link, but from context is probably a passing mention
 * 9, 10, 11: irrelevant to Gestetner (and misleading)
 * 12: an advertorial at best, signed by "Friends of Yossi"
 * 13: is a media kit by a magazine for which he writes
 * 14 (an index of articles rather than one article, but never mind): not reliable enough to be the basis of a subject's notability
 * 15: not a source in any sense
 * הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 04:56, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete as failing WP:BIO. Hasirpad did a much more detailed analysis of the sources than I did.  I only spot checked a couple.  The most obvious one to look at was the Daily News (#6 in his list).  Gestetner is mentioned in passing, below the break, so totally meaningless as far as establishing notability goes.  I also looked at #7, which is, as Hasirpad points out, on Gestetner's own web site!  Digging a little deeper on that one, it quotes an article from www.politico.com.  Again, he's only mentioned in passing.  His name doesn't show up until the third paragraph, and then only as somebody who's quoted commenting on the main subject.  -- RoySmith (talk) 02:38, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete does not pass WP:GNG or BIO. GNG requires multiple, non trivial mentions in reliable sources.  It appears that #5 in Gestetner's list meets this by my own loose standards, but that is only one, and therefore clearly not "multiple."    78.26   (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 16:27, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
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