Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Young American Virtuosi


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 13:15, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Young American Virtuosi

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fails WP:MUSIC. most of the 9 gnews hits refer to concert listings. no real peer recognition. almost looks like an ad given the complete lack of reliable sources. note that 2 of the 3 members had their articles deleted. LibStar (talk) 07:24, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete unless more substantive evidence of notability is provided. --Deskford (talk) 12:56, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as unnotable group for which there is no WP:RS establishing significance. Eusebeus (talk) 13:18, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: I can't find significant coverage for this band. Joe Chill (talk) 15:25, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:58, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete unless more substantive coverage added. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep if their extensive touring can be documented by reliable sources. Touring national and internationally is a factor of WP:BAND.  The article claims "New York debut at Carnegie Hall. They have performed as soloists and as a trio throughout North America, Asia, Middle East, and Europe...."  Playing at Carnegie Hall, (which can be verified here, does not create notability with one gig, but a major tour would make this trio notable. I've found proof of their tour in the Northeastern seaboard: to Maryland, DC, DC again, and a NY Times review of a concert north of NYC. Is that enough? I think so. Bearian (talk) 17:26, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I've fixed the wording and added the cites as noted. Bearian (talk) 17:37, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I note the policy is worded, "4. Has received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country." Bearian (talk) 17:40, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * it's not third party coverage, 3 of the articles you cite are by the very institution that hosted this group, so it's not very independent and it seems relatively small run of the mill concerts that universities run regularly. references you cite like is hardly indepth if anything it just verifies rather than establishes notability. it's not a major tour unless you can find some genuine third party coverage. there is a complete lack of coverage in independent media like major newspapers of this musical group. let's not pretend they are anymore than a minor amateur group. we don't have to host every group in WP because they've done a few amateur concerts. LibStar (talk) 12:58, 13 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - nothing I can find that makes them pass WP:BAND. Thus, does not merit inclusion.   Cocytus   [»talk«]  03:05, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
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