Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Your Time Is Gonna Come (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 06:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Your Time Is Gonna Come
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Subject fails WP:NSONGS. Most of what I found in BEFORE were mere mentions. This article relies on interviews (not independent) and discogs (WP:SPS). Efforts to redirect this have failed. Chris Troutman ( talk )  06:03, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.   Chris Troutman  ( talk )  06:03, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Led Zeppelin (album) as failing notability guidelines, as well as recommending protection to that page. If deleted, also support salting the title. Toadette  ( Let's discuss together! ) 16:42, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  18:34, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Virtually every Led Zeppelin song is going to meet WP:GNG. This is no exception.
 * Credited to Page and John Paul Jones, this gave Jones a chance to show off his abilities on the church organ, while Page made use of a Fender pedal steel guitar. Played on the band's early dates in Scandinavia, the song was later dropped from the show. Jones uses bass pedals on the organ to fill out the sound, until Plant begins to protest at the woeful lack of courtesy shown by the modern girl. "Lying, cheating, hurting, that's all you ever seem to do," he grumbles. But although she drives him insane, one day her time is gonna come and she'll find him gone. The pedal steel that Page uses is slightly out of tune, which adds to the strangely plaintive air that persists until Bonham's sternly bashing drums bring a sense of direction to the final chorus. Part of this song was sometimes used on the band's 'Whole Lotta Love' medley.
 * Only "Your Time Is Gonna Come" is not known to have been performed live during that period, probably because it requires an organ, an instrument to which John Paul Jones did not have access during concerts until later. Jason Bonham has said that the song's bright and cathedral-like organ prelude- -which he heard on a record player at his house as a child was one of his earliest memories, and made him curious about music before he finally understood that it was his father's profession. Here, Plant croons a vengeful lyric over a pastoral riff played mainly on acoustic guitar with occasional add-ins from Page on electric lap steel, an instrument he might have been fiddling with for the very first time. Page was, after all, a guy who'd joined the Yardbirds not as a guitarist but as a bassist- and he'd never played bass before, either! No portion of the lyrics to "Your Time Is Gonna Come" has been traced to any previous sources, but if Plant was the lyricist, the writing credits don't reflect it.
 * Segues from Dazed And Confused with a keyboard sound that although used sparingly by John Paul Jones was to become very much a Led Zeppelin sound. Nice gentle guitar from Jimmy gives this song a lovely feel. Along with Black Mountain side this track gives a nice respite from some rather exciting and heavy tracks now the album is on CD. In the days of vinyl of course this was a gentle (ish) start to side two.
 * On today's CD versions it segues into the following track, 'Your Time Is Gonna Come', as it had from 'You Shook Me'. Considering Page's close involvement in all things Zeppelin up to the present day, one can only assume that this unbroken movement of songs is intended. Certainly the César Franck-chorale-like organ intro to 'Your Time' (played by Jones) is in the same key in which 'Dazed' concludes, so it may well have been the original intention, thwarted by the time limitations of vinyl at the time. When Jones makes the transition into the riff of Your Time Is Gonna Come', the tune's roots are laid bare. The verse's structure is very close to 'Hey Joe', as performed by Jimi Hendrix, down to the detail of the cadential guitar tag. Plant's vocal follows a different route to 'Hey Joe', although the lyrics have a similar message about women paid back for alleged wrongdoings to long-suffering lovers. The song, another Page composition, is undistinguished, with a hackneyed chorus that even Page's arranging skills can't mask. He uses pedal-steel guitar for the first time in a studio, but by his own later admission it is out of tune. The song does however give Plant the opportunity to deliver an entire song without having to resort to screeching, and he does well.
 * Jfire (talk) 21:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep Tons of notable coverage per above. Seacactus 13 (talk) 01:31, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: Article needs some work but good sources are plentiful InDimensional (talk) 14:27, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - The article needs to be cleaned up, not deleted, and the sources given by JFire above only scratch the surface. There is enough analysis by reliable authors out there to expand this article significantly. Here's another: Led Zeppelin All the Songs: The Story Behind Every Track by Jean-Michel Guesdon and Philippe Margotin. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 13:47, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep – The Led Zeppelin band is exceptionally influential. The past AfD resulted in a merge but a lot more coverage has shown up in the past 20 years, some of which is noted by Jfire TLA  tlak 03:22, 17 March 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.