Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zaboor-e-Sukhan(the Psalms of Poetry)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. As this is a "soft" delete due to insufficient participation, anyone may request restoration of this article at WP:REFUND. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:50, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Zaboor-e-Sukhan(the Psalms of Poetry)

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the references provided are blogs, self publishing sites, pakistani pages more appropriate for a different WP, or dead links. the author doesnt yet have a link to an urdu WP article. so this book has no references showing notability. I have notified the creator of the need for more accurate material, and the response on his user page was cordial but didnt make sense. This article would need to be massively rewritten, and trimmed (unless he actually is a highly well known and critically respected poet in Pakistan, which i doubt) Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:17, 1 March 2011 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:04, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:44, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Alpha Quadrant    talk    15:14, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Comment: I'm not positive what you mean by "pakistani pages more appropriate for a different WP," but it's perfectly acceptable to use pages written in a foreign language or hosted in a foreign country as long as those sources meet WP:RS. None of the sources appear to meet WP:RS though. I don't see anything on a quick google to indicate that this book is notable and it probably should be deleted, I just wanted to point out that there's nothing inherently wrong with foreign language sources. Kgorman-ucb (talk) 20:50, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * you are correct, i was frustrated that since these sources didnt appear reliable, i had no way of knowing for sure (im pretty sure though). as long as someone with knowledge of the language can confirm such a source is reliable it can stay. I can sort of tell, if its from, say, an official govt site. As a 95% monolingual american (some ability to read spanish, german and similar languages), i have a highly unprofessional bias towards english only sourcing (I try to edit a bit on some european language wp's to overcome this bias). i fully acknowledge that its not required here.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 20:18, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.