Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zach Daeges


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The result was   keep. Spartaz Humbug! 16:44, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Zach Daeges

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Non-notable minor leaguer. Normally I'd merge it into the Red Sox, but after playing in 9 games in 2009 and no games in 2010, even after searching through sources I'm not positive where he stands in the organization, if anywhere, so merging may not be a good move here if he has one foot out the door. Recanting that, though I still suggest a merge. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:23, 19 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Merge Keep per expansion and reliable sources player has been injured and we shouldn't crystall ball his way out of the organization. Prior to his major ankle injury, he was definitely one of the top prospects in the organization.--TM 17:34, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Whether he has "one foot out of the door" or might play this spring for the Pawtucket Red Sox, there is no showing of independent notability, and he doesn't get a pass under WP:ATHLETE. I think that a stub was started under the assumption that he would make the big leagues because he'd been drafted 150th overall, but there's no basis for a stub.  Mention the brief text "Zach Daeges (born November 16, 1983 in Omaha, Nebraska) is a professional baseball outfielder in the Boston Red Sox organization. Daeges was drafted by Boston Red Sox in the 6th Round of the 2006 MLB Draft. He plays with the AAA Pawtucket Red Sox" wherever it seems significant, but no need for a merger discussion.  Mandsford 18:02, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Much more than is currently in the article can be written and sourced about the player; deleting the article and not redirecting it would not be helpful to Wikipedia.--TM 15:01, 20 December 2010 (UTC)


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 * Merge to Boston Red Sox minor league players. He missed most of the last couple of seasons with injuries but before that he was a top prospect. Since he is still in the system, I would say merge for now. Spanneraol (talk) 16:26, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Take a look at the article again; he was a 2nd team All American and there are 2 reliable, independent sources which cover him and his career in detail (from the Portland Press Herald and Providence Journal). I would suggest that at over 5,000k in length makes it a poor merge and considering the sources and accomplishments, the article passes GNG and the threshold of "Gained national media attention as an individual, not just as a player for a notable team".--TM 16:30, 20 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep Subject meets the general notability guidelines. The article is now better sourced with reliable content. Specifically The Providence Journal and the Portland Press Herald. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 00:38, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge Per Spanneraol. Alex (talk) 19:14, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Can someone explain how a second team All-American baseball player is not notable based on gaining "...attention as an individual. not just a player for a notable team"? It would seem that players on a list such as this are recognized as one of the foremost players at their position by collegiate officials, an indication of notability.--TM 15:49, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * College baseball honors have been determined to not be of lasting notability by consensus see the baseball subsection of WP:ATHLETE for criteria. Players need to have reached the Major Leagues or been the subject of multiple in-depth national reporting. The reporting here seems to be regional in nature and somewhat limited, for instance the Providence article is entirely about his rehabbing from an injury. Spanneraol (talk) 16:18, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * He is notable from his college days regardless of what happened professionally per ATHLETE: "Gained national media attention as an individual, not just as a player for a notable team". The All-American awards are a national award and obviously he gained media attention for them. I'd also argue that he satisfies criteria #1: "Have won a national award"; though the All American team is an award per se, I think it can be looked at as such.--TM 16:40, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
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