Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zafar Masud (banker)


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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 07:33, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Zafar Masud (banker)

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The subject fails WP:GNG, notable only as survivor of an airplane crash - WP:1E. Less Unless (talk) 20:10, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Less Unless (talk) 20:10, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Less Unless (talk) 20:10, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment As CEO of a reasonably-sized bank, there should probably be sources somewhere (I know, I know, WP:BTMBS, but still...). I'll try to find them as soon as I have the time. M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 20:29, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment Keep The subject appears to be of interest to secondary sources based on coverage. This source says he's the son of a popular Pakistani television actor, Munawwar Saeed. This source further states he is a maternal grandson of Taqi Amrohi, a Pakistani journalist who was chief editor of the country's largest and oldest Urdu newspaper, Jang. That same source also says he's therefore a direct relative of Bollywood film director Kamal Amrohi (the latter being his grandfather's cousin). For those who may not know, Taqi Amrohi himself was also the brother of the two very well-known Pakistanis Rais Amrohvi and Jaun Elia, which this ref briefly notes as Kamal's relatives. While notability is not inherited, I guess the point is that there appears to be enough interest and sustained coverage of his personal life in addition to his career as the CEO of Punjab Bank that a decent article could be salvaged IMO. I just don't know if I'd have enough time to commit to it for now. This reading is just what I found while scratching the surface.  Mar4d  ( talk ) 14:34, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I have changed my !vote after reviewing some further sources and work. The subject is notable as a senior banker in Pakistan. I believe a good article can be written from the information that is present.  Mar4d  ( talk ) 07:09, 26 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete No evidence of notability per nominator. Most coverage only concerns a crash. Azuredivay (talk) 01:44, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * While it's true that a lot of coverage at the moment is focused on the crash, it won't be entirely true to say that he wasn't covered by sources before. This ref from March gives better details about his experience and states he was CEO of Barclays in the southern Africa region, in addition to working at many other banks, being CEO of a credit finance company and formerly heading a government department. This one from April says he as 27 years experience in banking and was in the board of directors for the State Bank of Pakistan . This one from October 2018 notes that he left the board some time in 2016.


 * This one from February says he's also a board of directors' member at the National Bank of Pakistan. This article is actually on Citibank's history in Pakistan but quotes Masud as a former Citibanker (and as per the article's own admission: Citibank seems to have produced more financial leaders in Pakistan than any other financial institution. In both Corporate Pakistan – as well as the government – it means something special to be able to call oneself an “ex-Citibanker”, more so than any other financial institution.) These are all before the crash, so I can see a case for enduring notability.  Mar4d  ( talk ) 07:07, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete While many dots are being attempted to connect to establish the notability, there is clearly no evidence of notability. SyedAfzaal123 (talk) 04:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Week Keep per Mar4d. But he's non-notable except for being sole survivor of a plane crash. --Saqib (talk) 10:32, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 21:56, 2 June 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - CEO of a large bank. Bearian (talk)
 * Keep The fact that he survived a large plane crash alone is not enough to make him notable. However, I think he is notable, because he is the CEO of a large bank. Find_a_Grave_famous_people implies that founders and CEO's of relatively small corporations are notable enough to have their own articles. Scorpions13256 (talk) 06:03, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tone 10:21, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - Not too notable, but the CEO of a large bank. Foxnpichu (talk) 11:29, 11 June 2020 (UTC)


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