Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zaha Talhouni


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The result was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:29, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Zaha Talhouni

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Per WP:GNG, a topic must have received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. This person here is not the subject of any secondary sources, per WP:BIO. MikeMan67 (talk) 02:41, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Looks like she has received some pretty major awards and competed in significant athletic events. I think that meets WP:ATHLETE. Sources are a problem though. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:46, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep Athlete who received national honors of her country of birth and has coverage in newspaper sources. Q VVERTYVS (hm?) 15:07, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Couldn't find her in the list of thousands of taekwondo competitors under Zaha Talhouni, but I did find a Dirc Richard Talhouni who competed in the same events so I assume they're the same person. None of the events she competed in are significant according to the WTF except for the 2 junior world championships and 1 senior world championship.  Junior events do not show notability and she lost her only match at her one senior championship.  Simply appearing is not sufficient under WP:MANOTE--there were over 700 competitors at that one event and I don't believe they're all notable.  She's not ranked in the top 5000 for her career.  No significant coverage in independent sources.  Of the article's 4 sources--she's not mentioned in one, a passing mention in one, one was about a group of young women watching soccer (hardly notable), and one was about her passing her belt test.  Nothing significant and it's long been accepted that rank doesn't show notability.  Searching under both Zaha and Dirc Richard turned up nothing significant--just the usual dojo and social media hits.Mdtemp (talk) 16:23, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete I searched taekwondodata.com, which is what I assume Mdtemp did, and found what he stated above. I agree with the conclusions he reached--both about her notability in taekwondo and the article's sources.  My google search gave me nothing significant.  I have no idea how important or unusual the "badge of honor" mentioned in the article is and there's no sources to show it's notable or that she even received it.  Undocumented claims of unknown significance do not show notability to me. Papaursa (talk) 00:19, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Northamerica1000(talk) 15:29, 15 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails to meet WP:MANOTE or WP:GNG. 204.126.132.231 (talk) 16:16, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete, I'm going to go with the excellent work by User:Mdtemp and User:Papaursa above. There may be additional sources in Arabic which would push her above the WP:GNG, but I don't read Arabic well so I can't definitively say whether they exist.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 13:27, 25 February 2014 (UTC).
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