Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zahid Saeed (industrialist)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 01:46, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Zahid Saeed (industrialist)

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Politicians are not given an automatic free pass over WP:BIO just because they exist — their ability to qualify for Wikipedia articles is determined by criteria at WP:POLITICIAN. Saqib (talk) 06:23, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:38, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:38, 18 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. A politician needs to pass either WP:GNG or WP:POLITICIAN. It is possible for a politician to demonstrate notability by passing only WP:GNG. There may be references for this person in other languages spoken in Pakistan, and if so those references should be added to this article. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:50, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * If there are specific references you believe meet the criteria for establishing notability, please post them. You need to establish the WP:N in order to rescue this BLP. --Saqib (talk) 08:47, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot Saqib and Eastmain for your contribution to suggest to improve the page or consider deletion. I've added a further reference to his being elected twice as town councilor (nazim), a reference to his membership in SESSI (as covered by the press), and his presidency of KATI (as covered in the press). This is as per WP:Politician guidelines which refer that if a person has received significant press coverage, he can be considered for an article. Again, thank you for your guidance!HQEditor (talk) 13:50, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You need to provide some coverage here which can help establish the notablity of the person. --Saqib (talk) 14:26, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
 * We've had this conversation before. WP:GNG does not guarantee inclusion. It clearly states that if a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list. "Presumed" means that significant coverage in reliable sources creates an assumption, not a guarantee, that a subject merits its own article. So, WP:GNG on its own is not enough; we need more than that because, as the guideline goes on to explain, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. And if there is no obligation for the subject to pass  WP:NPOLITICIAN then why would Wikipedia have such a guideline? -The Gnome (talk) 16:42, 24 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. The sources here are not about Zahid Saeed for the purposes of getting him over WP:GNG — nearly all of them are either primary sources or glancing namechecks of his existence in coverage about other things, and the only two that actually have him as their core subject are mere blurbs. This is not substantive coverage for the purposes of making a person notable — GNG is not just "sources exist in which his name happens to appear", but requires sources to be substantively about him in much more depth than anything here shows. Bearcat (talk) 18:25, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - there is nothing significant in coverage to pass WP:GNG. On the other side, he also fails WP:NPOL test. Störm   (talk)  07:59, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG and also fails WP:NPOL.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 07:40, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delte per nomination on account of subject failing WP:NPOLITICIAN on account of lack of sources. -The Gnome (talk) 16:42, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - can't find any other significant coverage that's not there now. The mentions are passing, and some are highly press release driven. The phrase "...rich experience in the field of pharma industry..." is repeated. His professional and political careers don't quite meet WP:GNG. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  19:06, 25 July 2018 (UTC)


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