Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zak Elbouzedi


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  21:49, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Zak Elbouzedi

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Subject hasn't played in a fully professional match. Highest level in which he has played is Scottish League Two, which is semi-professional. WP:FOOTYN. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 22:35, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * Subject has so far played two games in the SPFL under Elgin City, who play in the SPFL (Scottish Professional Football League), and the opening line on the wikipedia page for said league says "The Scottish League Two, known for sponsorship reasons as the Ladbrokes League Two, is the fourth tier of the Scottish Professional Football League, the league competition for men's professional football clubs in Scotland.". Not trying to be rude here, but this quote alone has rendered your Proposed Deletion attempt invalid. If it were semi-professional, that'd be the Highland League and amateur would be Sunday League football. Professional football are the tiers that are officially recognized by UEFA/FIFA. Cheesy McGee. (talk) 00:19, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter what the name of the competition is, it's the professional status of the club(s) concerned that matters. Elgin City is a semi-professional club. So sorry for being rude, but you don't have a clue what you're talking about. For example, here is an article in the "I" newspaper which says "In Scotland, nearly half of the country’s 42 professional sides can be labelled part-time, with players topping up their full-time job with a minimal wage from football, or simply playing for expenses". When Elgin City advertised for a team manager in November 2014, they specifically said that it was a "part-time position". Jmorrison230582 (talk) 06:34, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep. The Scottish Premier League and the Scottish Football League merged in 2013 to form SPFL, so FPL is over four years out of date. Considering how much we rely on it at AfD, that's a very poor effort. I've already noticed that only US women's soccer is considered notable, which I consider hopelessly biased; so the combination of these two issues have this has me unconvinced about the validity of this system of accessing notability. In any case, this player can be presumed notable, but I'd love to see more citations. Jack N. Stock (talk) 02:13, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think you understand how the SPFL works. The top division (Scottish Premiership) is basically what the Scottish Premier League used to be, the division for the top 12 clubs, who are always fully professional. The second tier (Scottish Championship) usually has a majority of teams that are fully professional (8 teams out of 10 this year, with only Dumbarton and Brechin City being part-time). You sometimes get fully-pro teams in Scottish League One (third tier), and there are a few this year, but the fourth tier (Scottish League Two) almost never has a fully-pro club. Elbouzedi has only appeared in the latter competition for a club's first team. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 06:32, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 12:57, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails NFOOTY as has not played or managed senior international football nor played or managed in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 15:41, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Fail WP:NFOOTBALL .Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 15:07, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


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