Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zallascht Sadat


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. I actually don't have a problem with the multiple relists, as language bias can often keep us from finding reliable sources on an otherwise notable person. However, this has been open six days shy of a month, so it's time to push the button. No prejudice to recreation if sources appear. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  15:32, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Zallascht Sadat

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There is a claim of notability (new "Miss Afghanistan"), but this is not as far as I could tell verifiable and it is doubtful if this claim would be convincing anyway. Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk ) 11:53, 16 November 2008 (UTC) You can see pictures, proofing that she won at www.afghan-models.com Vida Samadzai was not officially elected by a jury, there was no pageant in 2003. Afghan models hold the first pageant on October 25, 2008 in Hamburg, Germany and Zallascht was officially elected —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neckprotector (talk • contribs) 04:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.184.146.71 (talk) 06:03, 21 November 2008 (UTC) 
 * Keep - I think it makes her notable enough. However, I'm buggered if I can verify the claim. There are a couple of youtube videos of the catwalks but it's not in English and the announcement of the winner doesn't seem to be on the videos anyway. - Richard Cavell (talk) 12:10, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete This article contains at least one falsehood. She is not the first to be elected since 1972 since I found mention of a Miss Afghanistan 2003. With the interest of the west in how Afghanistan is doing, I would expect some news source to pick up on this, instead I find 3-4 Google hits. Not verifiable. - Mgm|(talk) 16:40, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Vida Samadzai was 'Miss Afghanistan 2003' in the Miss Earth competition, which is not the same as 'Miss World'. You gotta know your beauty pageants. - Richard Cavell (talk) 20:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Afghanistan-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 00:51, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:30, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I am sure that this is a keeper, the pageant was a couple of weeks ago. It takes some time for the news agencies to catch up with this. You can visit www.afghan-models.com (website in german, due to pageant in germany) and check and there are pictures from the pageant. I will add pictures to this article as soon as it is approved as a keeper. Zallascht will represent Afghanistan in the Miss World 2009 and Miss Universe 2009 pageant. Yes there is a Miss Earth pageant also, but Zallascht will not participate in that one. Yes Vida Samadzai was Miss Afghanistan 2003, but there was no pageant in 2003 and she was not officially elected by a jury. She pretty much named herself Miss Afghanistan 2003 and was then invited to participate in the Miss Earth pageant. Additionally will Zallascht be one of the jurors electing Mr. Germany 2009 in Germany on December 13, 2008. 
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visit: www.missafghanistan.net or www.zallascht.com. those are the official websites. 
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 * Delete as there appear to be fundamental verifiability issues here. Beauty pageants usually draw a lot of press attention, especially when the entire world is thirsty for some positive news coming from Afghanistan, so I don't really think the "It takes some time for the news agencies to catch up with this" claim holds a lot of water.  If we have to guess whether she even really won or not, verifiability isn't there. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  19:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Type in zallascht in google and you will see she is the official miss afghanistan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.174.22.27 (talk) 08:45, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Delete: The assertion of notability is unverified. I am not going to look at the sites mentioned and I will not take an editor's word for it. If they care about the article so much, they should post the links the article. Fails WP:BIO. Schuy m 1  ( talk ) 03:07, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Wow, five relists, is that a record? Seems to be unverifiable by all means. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 03:35, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak delete — she certainly seems to be Miss Afghanistan for 2008, based on the sources from a quick Google search. However, there is nothing from any reliable sources that can establish any notability of this person. I have to agree with the above. MuZemike  ( talk ) 06:18, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete there seems to be source issues and there's a lot of controversy surrounding this article it looks like, and I'm a bit dubious that even if she was beyond doubt "Ms. Afganistan", that makes her notable at allPstanton 07:40, 10 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pstanton (talk • contribs)
 * Delete it already no need to re-list this one again I would hope. Sourcing issues are still outstanding.  JBsupreme (talk) 07:59, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


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