Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zara Kitson


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Borderline, but one "delete" does not address the sourcing level and quality.  Sandstein  06:13, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Zara Kitson

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Completing nomination on behalf of an IP who provided the following comment on the talk page:
 * As per: WP:N
 * This article reads like a CV. There isn't anything particularly notable about this political candidate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.116.24 (talk) 16:08, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

For my part, I am neutral. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 18:10, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: A notable activist during the Scottish independence referendum, 2014, she was the lead organiser of the "Yestival" and made multiple television appearances, on Scotland 2014. She was on the executive of Women for Independence- a notable group that emerged during the referendum campaign period. She then stood for the female co-convener position in the Scottish Green Party- this led to the first significant contest for such a position within that party. She was recently highlighted by YWCA. These various activities have had coverage in multiple reliable sources that are independent of Kitson and of the Greens. She is therefore notable when judged against WP:BASIC. I detailed some of her activities in the article and had thought it was worded in a neutral way- I have no connection to her. Drchriswilliams (talk) 20:35, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete : As stated, the article reads like a CV. There isn't anything particularly notable about this political candidate. What sources do you cite for being a "notable activist". "Yestival" doesn't have an Wikipedia article. Many people have had television appearances, yet don't have a Wikipedia article. The article is very similar to the one which was deleted for Toni Giugliano: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Toni_Giugliano  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.116.24 (talk) 21:06, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Actually, the subject of the currently contested article is a politician. The subject of that other AfD was a political advisor. There's a difference. -The Gnome (talk) 07:44, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:42, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:42, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:42, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Clear WP:NPOL failure. After reviewing all the sources and doing a search of my own, the question in my mind is: does her failed leadership challenge in 2015 get her over the WP:GNG line? She received a decent amount of coverage in late 2015 because of it, but it's largely from one newspaper that I see (the BBC article is pretty light, so not really counting it.) If there were several other newspapers all covering the Greens leadership election I'd be more convinced to do a weak keep. The remainder of the sourcing on the page passes WP:V but isn't significant coverage of her - a name-drop here, a quote there, a mention here. SportingFlyer  talk  05:21, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Never mind all the acronyms, Ms Kitson is a pretty-high profile individual in what is admittedly the junior party in the Scottish government. Here's a decent guide - has someone with a casual interest in the news living in what some (ill-informed) people might think of as a remote part of rural Scotland heard of them? In my case the answer is "yes". (I have no idea who Toni Giugliano is, so it isn't that similar.) Ben   Mac  Dui  18:45, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


 * The Scottish Green Party is not the junior party of the Scottish Government, the SNP run it as a minority administration. Toni Giugliano was a candidate for the SNP, who stood for them over several elections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.116.24 (talk) 12:17, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * You are right of course - it is more of a loose alliance. All the more interesting then that I recognise one name and not the other. As a passing observation I note how our standards vary across topics. There are articles about thousands of Scottish footballers who only obsessives can recall, yet we have less than thirty WP:BIOs about the Scottish Greens and Category:Scottish women artists has 76 articles (that's less than 7 per century of history). It's lucky we are so gender balanced that this hasn't become more of an issue. (Inserts irony emoji.) Ben   Mac  Dui  07:57, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 19:24, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete As per: WP:N and WP:NPOL there is not nothing noteworthy about this political candidate at this time to merit an article on Wikipedia. The article as it stands reads more like a CV. The section regarding her political career, simply notes the chronology of the elections she unsuccessfully stood for. The content of this article was very similar for Toni Giugliano and after the discussion there, the article was deleted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Toni_Giugliano — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.116.24 (talk) 13:46, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Doesn't seem to pass notability, has mainly been an unsuccessful candidate, and held a few not very important posts. PatGallacher (talk) 14:58, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - unelected politician. --RaviC (talk) 15:20, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Cut out the content in the article that's based on press releases, interviews and other primary sources and all that's left is the barest bones of an article about someone who worked for a charity - and even that is sourced awfully. There's no way the GNG is met. Exemplo347 (talk) 19:43, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I note that there was canvassing that preceded the last three votes:, , . Drchriswilliams (talk) 06:19, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * For my part, I considered it a neutral notification & I would have ignored it otherwise. Exemplo347 (talk) 11:20, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:Canvessing states: Canvassing is notification done with the intention of influencing the outcome of a discussion in a particular way, and is considered inappropriate. can you explain where I have tried to influencethe outcome of the discussion? If not, please apologise for making this accusation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.116.24 (talk) 20:56, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:38, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep on account of subject comfortably passing WP:GNG and WP:POLITICIAN. Several portraits in The National (here, here, etc); invited participant to a BBC panel; extensive reports for her go at party election and campaign in The Herald (e.g. here and here); Evening Times reported on subject's positions on youth; other interviews (e.g. here); and so on. It certainly looks like a keeper. No comment on the politics per se, of course. -The Gnome (talk) 17:58, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment I didn't think the Evening Times or Herald articles were at all substantial enough to show notability (short articles she's only quoted in/not the subject of) and most of the other coverage is a result of her failed candidacy to be the leader of a political party, which typically gets deleted unless coverage is substantial, since most candidates will receive at least some press coverage in the scope of their candidacy. SportingFlyer  talk  23:26, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment, hi, you ask how you talkpage notification of this afd could be construed as WP:CANVASSING? easy, it was quickly included on afd lists early on, and has been relisted so no real need to personally notify anyone, and you didn't notify any editor who may be deemed experienced/expert in this type of article, but the clincher is that all three editors said "delete" on the other afd you referred to in the notification, anyway this is a keep as meeting WP:GNG, article reflects this with numerous sources and those mentioned by , above. Coolabahapple (talk) 07:21, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not meet WP:GNG and not an elected official ifcthe party,let alone elected to a body. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.252.128.186 (talk) 14:06, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see any evidence of notability which would help justifying standalone page for this politician per WP:GNG. Sdmarathe (talk) 04:14, 23 June 2018 (UTC)


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