Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zayn Africa


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Discounting duplicate !votes, we have two editors supporting deletion and two editors seemingly opposing it. That doesn't generate a consensus either way, particularly given the lack of serious source analysis on either side. No prejudice against renomination by an experienced editor. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:50, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Zayn Africa

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All sources provided here was just a paid repeated publication (thesame copy content from newspapers), newspapers discussing about is life not any of big collaboration of event that meets to stay in Wikipedia. This artist has non big collaboration with any notable artists of his own country, that wouldn't make him notable for just newspapers entertaining him or advertising him. This did not meet the WIKI Notable GNG and WIKI Musicians. This article you can see Moved out of Draft AFC by the author himself because it was rejected. It was declined submission already Declined submission by AFC reviewer. Single event did not make it pass the WIKi musicians GNG. This article must meet the WIKI SA list for it to be in Wikipedia. Nigerlite (talk) 05:31, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:44, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:44, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment — I’m intentionally not !voting as the nominator themself are of questionable credibility. I have left this sock puppetry warning on their TP. Celestina007 (talk) 18:09, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment — I’m also not voting on the deletion of this article. Everything was written with good citations from independent news sources, artists do not have to work with other notable artists before they can become notable in their country or have an article on Wikipedia, what is important about notability is having recognised and covered by independent news sources under wikipedia guidelines. Abuthewriter (talk) 20:13, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 07:39, 25 July 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete! Article subject is a non notable musician who fails to satisfy the basic MUSICBIO criteria, I have also removed the awards section on their article which is a hoax, they weren't nominated in either of the two notable awards mentioned there; see the list of nominees here All Africa Music Awards 2016 nominess and Africa Magazine Music Awards nominees and the Northern Nigerian Entertainment Awards they won seems not to exist as Google search returns no results. The creator could also be a possible COI.  The Living love   talk 00:05, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Don't Delete! The article has been improved. The musician has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself as noted from the satisfaction of MUSICBIO. Themajidi (talk) 20:40, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 08:11, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete this page might be self bio, and an experienced editor wouldn't pick interest of this sources claim from newspapers as being a notability of the ensemble or musicians. Interviews from newspapers without indicating or documents it significant and demonstrate it notability as what is required, I'll just call this interview advertising a musical artist. The source may be independent but did not documents the subject notability as per Wiki:criteria for musicians for it to be enwik must pass this following criteria guideline of which in it says any article that:

•Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising. •Works consisting merely of trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories. •Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases. This should be adapted appropriately for musical genre; for example, having performed two lead roles at major opera houses. This page and the sources had not demonstrates that it is independently notable for it to be in enwiki. Nigerlite (talk) 18:35, 6 August 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * 1. Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries except for the following, which are:
 * 2. Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart. (article does not)
 * 3. Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country. (still does not)
 * 4. Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country. (does not)
 * 5. Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable). (record label he is in are just formed group 'crew' of which the head and owner of it does not meet the criteria for enwiki)
 * 6. Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles. (none is)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –– 𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗗𝘂𝗱𝗲  talk  04:51, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

which states a musician or ensemble may be notable if they meet at least one of the 12 listed criterias.
 * Comment — Don't Delete!... The editor who nominated this article for deletion themself are of questionable credibility, joined 2 months ago, looks anonymous and has not completed their user page as well, has not properly read and understood the criterias stated in Wiki:criteria for musicians

This singer met number one criteria of Wiki:criteria for musicians which states Musicians or ensembles may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria.
 * 1) Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.
 * 2) * This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries.

The nominator should understand that not every article on Wikipedia is meant for deletion, some may be stubs Stub and can be improved with time as musicians or ensembles status and credibility improves, that was why wikipedia stated in Wiki:criteria for musicians "Musicians or ensembles must meet either one of the following criteria", meaning they do not have to meet all criterias listed before they can be notable, they may meet some and others with time. He should also learn to help improve articles not only nominate articles for deletion, that makes a good editor. Themajidi (talk) 11:23, 13 August 2021 (UTC)


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