Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ze Malibu Kids


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The result was KEEP.  Spinning Spark  19:03, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Ze Malibu Kids

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Restored article deleted per A7. There's still no assertion of notability in the article, and the group doesn't meet WP:BAND. The creator asserts notability because its members are notable, inasmuch as they each have articles, but two of them are tagged with notability and have very weak sourcing. The band's name gets no Google News hits and few general hits. --BDD (talk) 01:42, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. --BDD (talk) 01:46, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 *  Keep (or AT A MINIMUM redirect) - If Anna and Jeff are not notable, they can be taken to AfD. Until that happens, the band likely has three notable musicians.  If Steven is the only notable musician in the band, then the article should redirect to him. --Jax 0677 (talk) 01:53, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

 Reply  - "If Steven is the only notable musician in the band, then the article should redirect to him". --Jax 0677 (talk) 01:32, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. Coverage for this band seems pretty minimal as far as I can tell; thesewrite-ups are the most detailed I could find. Other mentions, likethesethree, are in passing only and within entries/articles about Redd Kross. Perhaps this "side project" could be redirected there, unless more significant coverage is presented here.  Gong   show  04:13, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete a minor, brief side project with members related to Redd Kross. How minor is it?  It isn't even mentioned in the Redd Kross article (if it was we could redirect it there).  Doesn't pass WP:BAND.  Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  21:15, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect per Jax 0677. 069952497aComments and complaintsStuff I've done 23:06, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. The band comes nowhere near meeting WP:GNG, so the article will be a perma-sub-stub. We're long past the point where Jax shoukd have stopped creating these useless sub-stubs merely to bulk out the navboxes which he likes creating. It's a severe case of WP:IDHT. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:59, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 *  Reply  - Redirects are cheap. --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:49, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Reply. You want to redirect the title to a page which doesn't even mention that title? That wouldn't help the reader; it would confuse and frustrate the reader. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:21, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge to Redd Kross. A side project containing several members of notable bands should obviously be included somewhere. There are several sources available to expand/source this, e.g. Classic Rock magazine, Kreuzer, MTV, Stylus, and mentions in The Rough Guide to Rock and Lights, Camera Soundtracks (the band had a track included on the soundtrack of Sugar Town). --Michig (talk) 07:57, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable per Stylus & Classic Rock. Kreuzer looks good too, though it's hard to find info about it. There is also the arts journal neuma, Ruta 66 2002 - Nº 178 , an origin story in BAM 21 Feb 1997 (about halfway down ) and some ziney stuff like . 86.42.107.13 (talk) 06:49, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - Notability is not inherited. Assuming the members of this band are notable for other things (which may not necessarily be true), that doesn't mean that every other thing they do is automatically notable.  Notable people can do non-notable things.  And as far as I've seen from the sources given, this side project isn't notable.  ‑Scottywong | talk _  16:59, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 *  Reply  - Starblind, BrownHairedGirl, Scottywong, give me ONE good reason why this page should not redirect to either of the three musicians so long as their page(s) remain(s)? --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:30, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge into Redd Kross. I looked at the sources cited by Michig and do not find them sufficient for a stand alone article. The sources do however all say how this is a side project, so a short section on it as a side project would be appropriate. J04n(talk page) 00:42, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
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