Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zenisha Moktan


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The result was   delete. fails notability; no prejudice against good-faith recreation. tedder (talk) 07:04, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Zenisha Moktan

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Non-notable biography of a model and actress which fails on WP:ENT. The claim of significance or importance given is not credible. Former Miss Tamang (non-notable beauty pageant) and contestant of events which never happened don't give subject an encyclopedic value. WP:NOTSCANDAL also applies here. Hitro  talk  05:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete This is a very poorly-written article with no apparent Notability.  The References section is a joke. The films she's appeared in are footage from the beauty pageants in which she's competed, apparently, other than for one cameo (she was probably an extra, in reality), and an appearance in something with the dubious name of "MMS porn." KevinOKeeffe (talk) 14:55, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Adaquately referenced. Meets WP:GNG. Chuthya (talk) 11:45, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment-Clearly fails at WP:GNG. No Significant coverage and no source for notability. Apart from that there aint no Reliable source. Adequately referenced for sex scandal, measurement, height and appearance on the cover of non-notable magazine. Do you think this is enought for inclusion? Please indicate what point does this article meet. Saying just Meets GNG is not enough. Hitro   talk  17:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * reply Meets criteria 1 of WP:ENT due to numerous prominent appearances in a nationally broadcast television show. Chuthya (talk) 19:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Question- And what are those shows?? The article doesnt even mention that the subject is a TV artist too. Give a single instance of TV appearance. Dubious MMS Porn thing must not be one broadcasted on national Television. Was It? After analyzing your recent contribution, I believe that you are on mission to oppose 's opinion, however, you are entitled to have your opinion. No issue.  Hitro   talk  20:15, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The multiple television programs listed in the article. Just because they are Nepalese does not mean they don't meet the requirements of WP:ENT 1 Chuthya (talk) 13:36, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * which didn't happen because of the Women Nepali Maoist Party, that is an infringement from the article. Read the article, contest didnt take place. Miss Tamang must be a non-notable local contest which can not be the subject of national broadcast. It fails on 1st criteria of WP:ENT. However, such involvements in national broadcast hardly matter, you can not call it having significant roles in multiple television shows. Be it Nepalese or Be it Italian, unless you satisfy criteria for inclusion clearly, you aint an encyclopedic subject. Hitro   talk  14:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Reply Because one didn't happen does not mean that the rest did not. Chuthya (talk) 14:43, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I repeat "such involvements in national broadcast hardly matter, you can not call it having significant roles in multiple television shows ". Rest here is one, You are left with one and one is not multiple. Hitro  talk  18:52, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

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 * Keep Miss Teen Tamang is local contest but it got national coverage. She's well known model and also upcoming actress as well with new films on her credit. I have edited and added some more links/references, these may increase it's prominence. ...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rabingrg (talk • contribs) 04:13, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment- I am quoting an excerpt from the source added by you ... With indigenous beauty pageants sprouting like mushrooms in the capital, there was one more that added the list with the Miss Tamang 2006 Competition. I do not think winning such competitions gives somebody encyclopedic significance. Hitro   talk  06:44, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * reply It's not just because she won such competitions she should be here, she's a well known model which i pointed out before as well. She has credits of appearance on cover of magazines (i know you might say local one: but Wave is a famous magazine here in Nepal and among Nepali speaking population of India, if you insists on it's too local, i guess nothing of Nepal will feature here). She's upcoming actress as well. So i believe it shouldn't be deleted. --Rabin (talk) 10:13, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

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 * I'm struggling with this one. Searching for the young lady's name in English reveals a few sources, but it's also productive to search for her name in Nepali characters. I'm getting links like this, from Weeklynepal.com; but Nepali isn't one of my languages and I can't find an online translator that would let me even being to evaluate it.  And I can't make head nor tail of this, either, for the same reason. There is one (1) Wikipedian editor who lists themself as an available translator from Nepali to English.  This is Eukesh, and I note that Eukesh has made contributions to Wikipedia on 22 August and therefore seems to be an active user.  I believe that we will not be able to evaluate the sources without input from someone who can speak the language, so I will leave a note for Eukesh asking them if they wouldn't mind reading the sources for us.— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  01:10, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Additional note: I see that the article's creator has been indefblocked as a sockpuppetteer, so unless Eukesh or another user who can read Nepali passes through, my !vote is delete. I can assume good faith but I'm damned if I'll assume a known sockpuppetteer is in good faith.— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  01:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.