Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zeros and Ones (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was draftify. (non-admin closure) ~ Aseleste  (t, e &#124; c, l) 03:54, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Zeros and Ones
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Non notable future film, fails WP:NFF. All sources, including others found online, just talk about the star, Ethan Hawke, and nothing about the production of the film. Should be deleted or moved back to draftspace until closer to actual release when sources are about the film, not the actor.

Previous AfD (in February) resulted in a delete. Article was recreated in draftspace...and moved to main, again too soon. Donaldd23 (talk) 21:32, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Donaldd23 (talk) 21:32, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Donaldd23 (talk) 21:32, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Donaldd23 I'm sorry to say this, but you are incompetent, and you don't respect the work of others. --Salvatoreariel (talk) 10:37, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * - completely unacceptable comment. Please read WP:NPA. Thanks. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:10, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , argumentum ad hominem jabs are considered a bad tone... Here is some late night reading for you: WP:NOPA... Kolma8 (talk) 14:23, 28 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Draftify per WP:NFF, WP:NYF and WP:CRYSTAL. I agree it's too soon for this article to be created.  I don't know why  would move Zeros and Ones to article space when it's not ready yet. Hitcher vs. Candyman (talk) 21:43, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Draftify per above. Last time created this article directly in mainspace, I speedied it under G11. It’s just not ready. Salting might be a good idea until the film is notable.  Pupsterlove02  talk • contribs 22:04, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Draftify as production hasn't begun, but it will be considered notable in future, assuming it gets made. G4 any future creations if productions hasn't started and/or notability still not established. WikiVirusC (talk) 22:13, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

It is a film that is ready, already finished for months. By putting it on wikipedia we save all the work. Wikipedia deserves this article. I don't understand why you are hesitant. --Salvatoreariel (talk) 10:41, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Where is your evidence to support that the production has already finished? Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:09, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

When a movie is on the reputable and serious IMDB site: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13432484/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm It means filming is over. --Salvatoreariel (talk) 11:31, 28 March 2021 (UTC)


 * No it doesn't and, for the record, a film being on IMDb doesn't automatically make it notable enough either. There is nothing on WP:NFILM or WP:NFF that says that we can create an article on a film as soon as it appears on IMDb... Also, copy pasting from NFF Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:35, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * To echo Spiderone I could not find anything saying that the production is over. Last piece of new I have seen here, that filming WOULD begin in Italy in November 2020... Kolma8 (talk) 14:16, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * IMdb is not considered a "reputable and series site". See WikiProject_Film/Resources. It would be best to do research before commenting. Also, no one is trying to "delete your hard work", its just too early for this article. Its fine in draftspace until it is closer to release. Donaldd23 (talk) 15:05, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

@Spideron How do you tell that IMDB is not trusted? IMDB is the most serious movie site around. You must inform yourself: this is serious ... "I copy and paste, because I don't write very well in English" excuse me --Salvatoreariel (talk) 17:00, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It's not a reliable source for use as a reference on Wikipedia, please read WP:RS. IMDB is a user-generated site similar to how Wikipedia is, anyone can edit it. Also in regards to your comment about it being on IMDB means that filming is over, that is false, movies like Guardians of the Galaxy 3 are only in pre-production, and still have a IMDB page, just like this movie does. The article will be made, it just isn't ready yet per Wikipedia policies. WikiVirusC (talk) 17:13, 28 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Draftify - at this point it's not in production, so draftify until principal photography starts, if there's enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG at that point.  Onel 5969  TT me 18:23, 2 April 2021 (UTC)


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