Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zheng Guanying Official School


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The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Star  Mississippi  02:36, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Zheng Guanying Official School

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Non-notable school lacking significant coverage in reliable sources. Article was previously PRODed. 33ABGirl (talk) 16:57, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Schools,  and China. 33ABGirl (talk) 16:57, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - I found reliable sources from Macau newspapers in Portuguese about non-routine matters at the school. This meets GNG. Additionally, this article from Macau Business stated that there was an academic PhD thesis about this school presented in Portugal. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:42, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for providing the sources. Please find my assessment on the sources below per WP:SIRS.


 * (added 12 June) In general, most sources fail WP:ORGDEPTH, with only brief mentions or coverage of the subject. Content is limited to local events, brief announcements and routine coverage, making them WP:TRIVCOV. As per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, the sources do not establish WP:ORGSIG.


 * In summary, I believe the presented sources  does not  fulfill WP:SIGCOV, so WP:GNG has not been met for the article subject.
 * {| class="wikitable"

!Link !Source !Independent? !Reliable? !Significant coverage? !Count source toward GNG?
 * 1
 * Tribuna de Macau
 * Yes
 * Yes
 * No, only reported on a single event, potentially WP:ILLCON.
 * No
 * 2
 * Tribuna de Macau
 * Yes
 * Yes
 * No, only reported on a single event, potentially WP:ILLCON. ( Same  event as No.1)
 * No
 * 3
 * Macau Business.com
 * Yes
 * Yes
 * Partial, provided a holistic profile of the school in the context of a award, potentially based on a press release.
 * Partial
 * 4
 * Universidade Aberta
 * Yes
 * Partial, source is mostly primary research as it is a dissertation
 * Yes
 * Partial
 * }
 * 33ABGirl (talk) 16:57, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Are those the wrong links? The first two links in that table are not cited in the article and don't seem to be about this subject. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 20:03, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The first two links are from the diff provided by WhisperToMe. 33ABGirl (talk) 16:01, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * IMO what makes the Jornal Tribuna de Macau matter is that they describe the school's instructional model and how some parents reacted to it. One article stated that one parental criticism argued against how the primary school content had Mandarin as its medium but how the secondary content switches to English. In the other, the administration argued that Portuguese makes sense as students can then begin working for the Macau government (which requires Portuguese knowledge). IMO this content is different from articles being about a single incident where something bad happened at the school (but which had no lasting effect). WhisperToMe (talk) 16:31, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * That is simply not true. I opened that diff and searched for the two URLs, and I could not find them. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 16:53, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I apologize for my error, it seems that I used the wrong links on the table. I have made the corrections to the links. Thank you for letting me know. 33ABGirl (talk) 17:29, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Additionally, "Special Report – EOZGY, the Pǔtōnghuà’ school" is not in fact about a single event, but is a holistic profile of the school itself and its educational mission. As for the thesis, dissertations can and do include literature reviews, though I'll have to see how much the author reviewed previous literature about this school. In any event, I found another academic source that talked about the school's enrollment after a Standard Chinese curriculum began in 2011.
 * As for the thesis, the school is discussed on pages 141-155 (the PDF file places page 141 as 161/330). The author cites Silva (2011:114) on page 143 about the neighborhood which contains EOZGY. The author also cited a Macau Education Department text about the school before analyzing signage and "primary source material" generated from the school itself. Nevertheless, it shows the school is of scholarly interest in Portugal.
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 21:29, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * On the Macau Business.com source, I agree that there is a holistic profile of the school, based on the awards event mentioned in the first paragraph. I have amended the table to reflect this. 33ABGirl (talk) 16:14, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Additionally, "Special Report – EOZGY, the Pǔtōnghuà’ school" is not in fact about a single event, but is a holistic profile of the school itself and its educational mission. As for the thesis, dissertations can and do include literature reviews, though I'll have to see how much the author reviewed previous literature about this school. In any event, I found another academic source that talked about the school's enrollment after a Standard Chinese curriculum began in 2011.
 * As for the thesis, the school is discussed on pages 141-155 (the PDF file places page 141 as 161/330). The author cites Silva (2011:114) on page 143 about the neighborhood which contains EOZGY. The author also cited a Macau Education Department text about the school before analyzing signage and "primary source material" generated from the school itself. Nevertheless, it shows the school is of scholarly interest in Portugal.
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 21:29, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * On the Macau Business.com source, I agree that there is a holistic profile of the school, based on the awards event mentioned in the first paragraph. I have amended the table to reflect this. 33ABGirl (talk) 16:14, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep: This meets WP:GNG. CastJared (talk) 20:56, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per User:WhisperToMe. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 03:16, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per all above and WP:GNG. Article passes the guideline with the independent, secondary, reliable sources proving both verifiability and notability. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 16:15, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep meets WP:GNG. The person who loves reading (talk) 00:33, 11 June 2023 (UTC)


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