Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zhou Chengzhou


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  18:45, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Zhou Chengzhou

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Fails WP:BIO. Sources are all minor mentions or not independent AINH (talk) 02:11, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. AINH (talk) 02:11, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:18, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Please list the WP:THREE best sources, thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:44, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * There are WP:THREE links per your request:1,https://www.imdb.com/name/nm11365482/ 2,https://independentshortsawards.com/bronze-awards-october-2019/ 3,https://www.1x.com/blog/permalink/9044 If there is any question, please feel free to contact me, Thanks. --Armidazhou (talk) 11:46, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Thank you Armidazhou, but based on those sources, this does not meet WP:DIRECTOR.  IMDB is WP:UGC, and thus not WP:RS.  Independent Short Awards is a minor award.  The 1x item is basically a blog post by the subject.  -- RoySmith (talk) 15:08, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * 1X is just called blog, but it's actually a famous media magazine in the industry, not a blog. (You can check it at https://www.google.com/search?q=1x.com&sxsrf=ALeKk02NzI0r8FswF_fqxof90D29LKttg:1616258054017&ei=BiRWYJZN2aegBPXdgegL&start=0&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwiW6LK5pr_vAhXZE4gKHfVuAL04ChDy0wN6BAgDEDs&biw=1388&bih=589). But I'm really as an new editor.. I don't know which sources are reliable.Or I find three new sources. Thank you so much.https://aestheticamagazine.com/profile/zhou-chengzhou/ https://www.lensculture.com/2018-lensculture-art-photography-award-winners https://www.adkfilmfestival.org/portfolio/sub-subconscious/ Or A masterpiece-Shape and color hatching square-Zhou Chengzhou. CHINA PHOTO PRESS(中国摄影报）: Fifth full page. 2018.(It is the largest official photographic newspaper in China) This item is not easy to come by. Please review it again. Thank you so much!Armidazhou (talk) 16:19, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Maybe he isn't famous enough, so the article will be deleted. I keep it here. If you want to make it better you can copy it to your space.-- Galaxy mayor —☎️— 04:09, 21 March 2021 (UTC)


 * As I am a novice with no experience, I would like to ask experienced editors for help. Please see if you can help me find a suitable source from the existing sources of this article to prove that it can continue to be retained. If not, I have no problem in deleting it. However, this article is newly established. It must have been passed for the right reason. Moreover, the editors who have passed the examination are all experienced editors. Then I would also like to ask the user who proposed to delete the template that since you (@AINH) proposed to delete the template, please provide with the reasons why you feel inappropriate here in detail. I think you also need to provide counter evidence, instead of writing a general article to delete the article. @AINH also proposed to delete the article “周承舟” in Chinese wiki. Because everyone has the right to propose this action, I am open to your queries BUT I hope it DOES NOT involve any personal bias, and we should maintain a neutral attitude. If anyone is interested in more details, please contact me. Thank you. Armidazhou (talk) 06:58, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I established "Zhou Chengzhou" English wiki entry "Zhou Chengzhou" has passed the audit. This is an article about Chinese mainland people. Here I would like to thank the wiki users who have passed the audit and edited together. However, after that, I received a discussion reminder that the page will be deleted.

His user page is here: Chwiki page: https://archive.is/oLPpt (https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AINH) ,

Please take a look at the comments on this user（AINH）page, he said: （Page Translation: “Ainh expressed strong dissatisfaction and strong opposition to frequent talks about Hong Kong affairs among Chinese Mainland users, and demanded that such persons stop interfering in Hong Kong affairs immediately What about the fight? Open the whole simple encyclopedia directly! Pink to hide your ears: you don't want to face the problem, I'll be with you. "Yellow and blue are political opinions, black and white are conscience")

His English p.: https://archive.is/yigjl (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AINH), which is the same user name, presumably a person.

This is the relevant page of "Zhou Chengzhou" article,

chinese: https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%91%A8%E6%89%BF%E8%88%9F

english: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhou_Chengzhou

I have had some discussions, but I really don't know much about the terms of Wiki. Maybe I don't know how to deal with such a situation. I sincerely ask all experienced editors to help me and ask for help. Thank you very much.

I respect the standards and guidelines of Wikipedia very much, and I will try my best to cooperate if the items need to be improved.If the article is really not suitable for Wiki. I also accept the result. Thanks.

Best and have a good day,everyone. Hope the world peace.Armidazhou (talk) 17:31, 21 March 2021 (UTC)


 * What is this? A personal attack? Well, firstly don't just Google translate my user page, that pulls it out of context. Second yes, I hate China pushing its propaganda on Wikipedia, so what? That doesn't change the fact the article lacks notability. I will still propose to delete the article if this is a Hong Konger or American or whatever, the nationally have nothing to do with it. Comment on the article, not the one who discusses it. -AINH (talk) 12:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. Jumpytoo Talk 00:17, 23 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete I can find his pictures being used by various sources, but no independent WP:RS that discusses the person itself in detail. Even if I assume the "CHINA PHOTO PRESS" source is WP:SIGCOV, it is not enough to meet notability. Jumpytoo Talk 00:21, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I have closed the request edit template above as "answered". Request edits are for editors with a COI who want to add information to an article. As this request is for other users to find sources, it is not the appropriate template to use. Also, the template should be used on the talk page of the article that is supposed to be edited, not in an AfD. If there are any questions please go to the WP:TEAHOUSE or my talk page. Thanks! Z1720 (talk) 20:28, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

I think this article can be keeped. There are three reasons. 1. His works have been selected and won many international awards. For example: Lensculture Award(https://www.lensculture.com/2018-lensculture-art-photography-award-winners), Aesthetic art prize(https://aestheticamagazine.com/artprize/artists-profiles-2019/), 1x award(https://www.1x.com/blog/permalink/8349), and FAPA award( https://fineartphotoawards.com/winners-gallery/fapa-2018-2019/professional/conceptual/hm/8237/). There are exhibitions in many famous art galleries, such as the exhibition in the aperture foundation(https://aperture.org/editorial/aperture-lensculture-celebrate-opening-beyond-boundaries/), York Art Gallery, Nat Geo, and Today Art Gallery. In addition, he has published works in many world-famous media, such as Fortune magazine, National Geographic magazine (home page), China Daily, books and newspapers, etc. All of the above can be found in his sources. 2. He has independent sources. The first is the special report twice in China Photo press, which is in line meet the WP:SIGCOV (a master piece shape and color hatching square Zhou Chengzhou ". China Photo press: Fifth full page. 2018/" field of view multidimensional nature Zhou Chengzhou ". China Photo press: the eighth full page. 2016.) The second is the independent report in 1X（https://www.1x.com/blog/permalink/9044)First of all, it's not a Blog website. It's a well-known professional photo website. The editors are all senior professionals, and the editors are very professional. This is in line with the terms. Then there are also professional websites in the global photography network（ http://www.g-photography.net/file_auditorium/excellent/zhouchengzhou/index.php )Special topic interview. Finally, there is a separate report page in aesthetica magazine（https://aestheticamagazine.com/profile/zhou-chengzhou/). So, I think the above is meet WP:RS. 3. In terms of films, his works have won many nominations and winners, such as Adirondack Film Festival, which is a well-known film festival (100 best reviews in filmfreeway, Also a professional professional there company – the Adirondack there Festival.), LAUFF is a very professional and well-known film festival in the industry, and LIFT-OFF film festival is also a very well-known film festival In addition. The film festival does not mean that it will be able to win the similar Oscar film festival as a similar standard, because there are many kinds of film categories. So I think this article can be keep. I hope that the majority of editors will consider my opinions. Thank you, have a good day.Armidazhou (talk) 06:49, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Zhou Chengzhou is specialized in the field of spiritual consciousness. He has been in contact with some people with mental illness for a long time and has done related research. It aims to improve people's prejudice against them and make more people pay attention to them.
 * Delete, Most of the sources stated, if not all, are unreliable sources, and thus fails notability. Sun8908 &#8239;Talk 17:44, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Additional comment: I think User:Armidazhou is Zhou Chengzhou himself (see more on zh:Talk:周承舟 and ) and the article is believed to be a WP:AUTOBIO which is strongly discouraged. Sun8908 &#8239;Talk 18:04, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete – I would normally say Draftify on the grounds of plausible notability. However, helpfully provides extremely compelling evidence that the article's creator and primary contributor is the subject themselves, and it does not appear that they have disclosed this on the English Wikipedia. Furthermore, said editor's contribution history indicates that they have engaged in forum shopping and inappropriate canvassing to recruit allies for this deletion discussion, refbombing to artificially stave off notability concerns, and self-promotion across multiple articles, indicating that draftifying would not solve the problem.  TheTechnician27   (Talk page)  17:08, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - Be careful what you wish for, Armidazhou - You just might get it. Sun8908's links, analysis, and diffs are rather convincing. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 20:07, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * STATEMENT I need to make the following points about who is the editor. 1, Due to the IP address‘s problems. So I can't use my own account to edit. So I can just only use Zhou Chengzhou's own account to edit. The statement was never edited by him.2. As for the screenshot, I was asked for Zhou get the source information at that time, so he knew about it with Wiki. Moreover, Everyone can check the process of improving the item, and he can also check it. Is it impossible for him to express his own opinion?3. Is it right that user:googol19980904 reprinted his own speech without permission?4. In the end, if you must think that he edited it, please give us some concrete evidence.Thanks. 5. I've written the reasons why this article can be keep. I won't say anything else. Please be kindly to new people. Thank you.Armidazhou (talk) 02:03, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Are you really a "new people" though? Feels like a fairly typical WP:NOTHERE for me-AINH (talk) 08:29, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Is a person with an IMDb page still not notable? :) -- BrandNew Jim Zhang   (talk)  09:26, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No. IMDB is not a reliable source, which with all due respect is smth that a guy with 3k edit should have known. They have a fairly low limit on who can create a page there (If I remember correctly, as long as you have published a film and have an official website, you can create a page for yourself), and anyone can submit a page. And seeing that Armidazhou already have COI on Wikipedia, I strongly doubt that whether or not he created the IMDB page himself-AINH (talk) 11:36, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah okay, I saw that on WP:USERG. Thank you :) -- BrandNew Jim Zhang   (talk)  11:55, 26 March 2021 (UTC)


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