Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zina Spezakis


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The result was delete. Lord Roem ~ (talk) 03:36, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Zina Spezakis

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Subject is a long-shot candidate for office (US House of Representatives) challenging a popular eight-term incumbent. Besides declaring candidacy for office, the subject is not otherwise notable.

She may warrant an article at a later date, i.e., if she wins the primary, but until then is not notable per WP:GNG. Does not appear to meet WP:CAE but the guidelines for political candidates are very unclear and apparently contentious. Paisarepa (talk) 00:07, 27 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - This seems like a WP:Crystal issue. I can envision a future in which this woman becomes very notable, similar to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, but that hasn't happened yet and we don't usually create articles because of the possibility that a person might become notable in the future. Michepman (talk) 02:09, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:45, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:46, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete. People do not get Wikipedia articles just for being candidates in future political party primaries — the notability bar for politicians is holding a notable political office, not just running for one. But this makes no claim that she has preexisting notability for other reasons that would have gotten her an article independently of the candidacy, and is not referenced even close to well enough to claim that her candidacy is somehow more special than everybody else's candidacies. So no prejudice against recreation in November 2020 if she wins the seat, but nothing here qualifies her to already have an article today. Bearcat (talk) 14:25, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Candidates become notable when they hold an elected position that meets WP:NPOL or if the media coverage receives national or international coverage well outside the norm (e.g. Christine O'Donnell). --Enos733 (talk) 15:40, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Yip, but not yet.  scope_creep Talk  09:50, 28 November 2019 (UTC
 * Week Delete/Redirect Has raised over a million dollars for her campaign, so she's far from a long-shot candidate. However, she has yet to hold political office or receive significant news coverage. Dobbyelf62 (talk) 15:38, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - To be clear,, the issue isn't whether or not she is likely to win her election. The issue is that this article was created before she won her election, and as a general rule we don't make articles on people who are only running for (but have never held) an elected office per WP:NPOLITICS. If there was an extraordinarily high level of news coverage about her, that would be different, but there doesn't seem to be such a thing. Michepman (talk) 23:54, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Right, as you said, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. As such, I will be changing my vote from "Weak Keep" to "Weak Delete/Redirect"


 * Delete Will not be notable unless she wins the election next November.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:58, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Even if she wins the primary, it still does not give her notability. If she wins in November 2020, then by all means she deserves article, but not now. Lefcentreright  Talk  (plz ping) 15:16, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect Probably not notable at the moment, but is a valid search term and could be notable in the future. Better to preserve the history as a redirect. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 18:08, 2 December 2019 (UTC)


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