Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zionist Spirit


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There is a clear consensus that this is not, in itself, a suitable subject for an article. There also seems to be a consensus that this should redirect somewhere, but not as to where, so that discussion should be held separately. Seraphimblade Talk to me 02:56, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Zionist Spirit

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Defunct alliance. --Panam2014 (talk) 14:51, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting. I'm inclined to Redirect this page but we have 4 different suggested targets. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:13, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2022 September 20.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 15:02, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Politics,  and Israel. Shellwood (talk) 15:30, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: Clearly passes WP:GNG, defunct or not -- and at any rate, it seems premature to say it's "defunct" after only about a week. Gnomingstuff (talk) 18:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Alliance dissolved in a month, had two notable figures and isn't likely to remain relevant. If something ever happens to it we should probably bring it back, but as of now any notable information included in the article (of which there isn't much) should be merged into related articles. Totalstgamer (talk) 18:17, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Ayelet Shaked, as the alliance was perceived in Israel a vehicle for her participation in the elections.--Eranrabl (talk) 19:31, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Yoaz Hendel, as the alliance was dissolved after Ayelet Shaked left and Yoaz Hendel dropped out of the race. --FellowMellow (talk) 02:14, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to 2022 Israeli legislative election as was done in Hebrew wiki. The 6 week alliance should be mentioned in the greater context of the whole elections. DGtal (talk) 06:42, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect as never having participated in elections. As for the target, all three previous suggestions happen to be wrong. First off, people should only be a last resort for redirecting parties. To the core, the Zionist Spirit was an alliance between Yamina and Derekh Eretz (political faction). Yamina left and the Zionist Sprit, in its final weeks, was IDENTICAL to Derekh Eretz (political faction) with the faction outlasting the party. Therefore Derekh Eretz (political faction) is the only correct target. gidonb (talk) 11:07, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - Where it needs to be redirected will require a separate discussion I think. Accesscrawl (talk) 11:17, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Classic case of WP:TOOSOON; the article should not have been created until the alliance was confirmed as running in the election. Number   5  7  12:48, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - United Jewish Home was deleted too after all Braganza (talk) 19:33, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - Redirect to 2022 Israeli legislative election. I'd say the arguments to direct to Ayelet Shaked or Yamina, and Yoaz Hendel or Derekh Eretz are equally valid. JackWilfred (talk) 10:42, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep – The article should stay as this was a proposed electoral list and there are multiple sources. Otherwise, it should be a redirect to Yamina. --Checco (talk) 14:47, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment. Yamina, as the larger faction of the party, would have been the correct target if Yamina had not left the party, leaving it as the intended election platform of only the Derekh Eretz faction. By default the largest faction is the correct target, under strong and special circumstances, this time it was the other faction. People should be targets for parties should only if all else fails AND these were very single person-focused lists. Definitely not the case here. Two targets, in any case, take priority AND this was an alliance between real factions with very justified articles. gidonb (talk) 12:56, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I was wrong, there are 5 different redirect targets mentioned here. Unless some consensus can be found on where this page should be redirected to (which can always be debated and changed later on), I anticipate this article will be deleted. Liz Read! Talk! 04:28, 30 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete or Redirect to Ayelet Shaked for her being the center point of the entire event.  Suryabeej      ⋠talk⋡    10:39, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Given that there's a lot of dispute regarding the potential destination for a redirect, i think itd be best if we redirected to 2022 Israeli legislative election. Shaked and Hendel, Yamina and Derekh Eretz were all very important in Zionist Spirit's formation and brief candidacy. I intend on writing a campaign section for the 2022 page, which could presumably include all the details of ZS's existence. Totalstgamer (talk) 15:28, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Ayelet Shaked.4meter4 (talk) 02:05, 5 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.