Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zionology


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The result was   keep. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  00:11, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Zionology

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Per No original research and Avoid neologisms. This article is some original compilation of quotes from several Soviet-Ukrainian publications. Google search for "zionology doctrine" gives only 336 links, most of them wiki clones of the diccussed article, search in google books gives no references at all. DonaldDuck (talk) 14:59, 25 December 2008 (UTC)


 * delete as Neologism wihtout foundation. ThuranX (talk) 17:02, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * STRONG KEEP. There are a lot of russophone sources thereon.--Lute88 (talk) 18:07, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * None of this sources describe "Zionology" as political doctrine.DonaldDuck (talk) 02:49, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * In fact. A pseudoscience rather.--Lute88 (talk) 13:36, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Donald: I agree with Lute, even the fact that something may be a "pseudo-science" does NOT make it un-encyclopedic. Wikipedia has articles about the wackiest things as long as they are based on WP:RS and WP:CITE. Hence see Category:Pseudoscience, and if one doesn't like the article it can even go in Category:Pseudoscience articles needing expert attention but one doesn't run to zap something just because it sounds strange or distasteful. See also: Don't demolish the house while it's still being built. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 09:19, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep / Rename to Soviet Anti-Zionism. I agree that Zionology appears to be a neologism, but the phenomenon described in the article is genuine. The term "Soviet Anti-Zionism" is used by one of the sources provided in the article and would be a more accurate, better-supported and more-intuitively understood title for the article. Alansohn (talk) 18:28, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Rename. Valid topic for an article, but invalid title for the topic. =Axlq 20:09, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:12, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:13, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Rename The word is not in an English dictionary. But the concept of Russian/Soviet anti-semetic theories is a good topic. If the word starts showing up in mainstream newspapers and journals then the word has entered English and we can return the article name. SO, we should keep it, rename it, and then edit it carefully that everything is sources and not OR:Synthesis --Jayrav (talk) 01:22, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Rename - per above. --Knowzilla 19:54, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep because this was a term that was evidently used in the Soviet Union as the sources show, albeit a nasty and despicable one at that. The fact that it does not have a place in an "English dictionary" does NOT delegitimize this Russian term. The application of WP:NEO is also mistaken here because that rule is applied to writers of articles on Wikipedia who create neologisms as articles but not to terms that were indeed made up and used in foreign countries. Sure, the Russian communists created and made up crazy words, and this one appears to be one of those. Unless better research can be presented that it was truly a non-sarter in Russia this article should be left as is! IZAK (talk) 09:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * This term is very obscure neologism in Russian also, just as in English .DonaldDuck (talk) 12:42, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions.   IZAK (talk) 09:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philosophy-related deletion discussions.   IZAK (talk) 09:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Rename per Alansohn. -- Nudve (talk) 09:29, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Rename and Rewrite as Anti-Zionism in the Soviet Union. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 12:20, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep the article and the name - searching for сионология in Russian shows that it's not a neologism and it's perfectly reasonable to render it as "Zionology" in English. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 16:05, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


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