Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zipp Duncan


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The result was   no consensus. -- Cirt (talk) 00:11, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Zipp Duncan

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Fails WP:ATH, never played professionally.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  21:51, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
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 * Keep I really like the article on him and the O-line in USA Today plus there's a good amount of other coverage. For an offensive lineman, he's either really widely known or has a good press agent.  I'm going with notable here.--Paul McDonald (talk) 03:30, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:ATH, never played professionally.  Not enough sourcing to establish notability according to the general notability guidelines.  Narthring (talk  • contribs) 15:58, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - Although there's a lot of coverage of this person none of it qualifies as significant. Person fails WP:GNG. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 18:50, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. There is a fair amount of non-trivial coverage of Duncan in the mainstream media, and it's not just passing references in game coverage.  As noted by Paul McDonald, linemen don't usually get a lot of media attention, but he is an exception.  He was picked to play in a national all-star game, served as the captain of an SEC football team, and was a second-team All-SEC player (the SEC is the toughest conference in college football).  In addition to the USA Today article referenced above, articles focusing on Zipp Duncan include (1) He's added some Zipp to Cats' line play, Courier - Journal (Louisville, Ky.), Aug 21, 2007; (2) POSITION MOVE PUTS ZIPP IN CAT'S STEP,  FORMER TIGHT END DUNCAN GETTING PRAISE AS LINEMAN, Lexington Herald-Leader, August 13, 2007; (3) UK's Duncan left in a media daze,  Wildcat lineman thinking about a career in broadcasting, Lexington Herald-Leader, August 3, 2009; (4) E-TOWN'S BATTERING RAM,  UK FOOTBALL RECRUIT ZIPP DUNCAN LIKES TO MIX IT UP, Lexington Herald-Leader, March 17, 2005; (5) Another change for offensive lineman: Rising senior Zipp Duncan moves to left tackle, his fourth position at UK, Kentucky Kernel, April 19, 2009; (6) Duncan signs with Eagles, The News Enterprise, April 27, 2010; (7) Duncan, Peters Elected Captains, August 20, 2009, UKAthletics.com; (8) Duncan, Smith in All-Star Game, February 5, 2010, UKAthletics.com; (9) Two Wildcats in All-Star games, February 5, 2010, WKYT. Cbl62 (talk) 03:30, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * All of the articles you listed above are local news coverage articles. None of the other reasons listed (captain, second-team All-SEC, invited to all-star game) are in any inclusion criteria. I think the Big Ten can be considered "the toughest conference in college football," but this is also purely subjective.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  03:39, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The Courier Journal is not a small-town podunk newspaper covering a local football hero. It's the 48th largest daily newspaper in the United States.  Likewise, the Lexington Herald-Leader has won multiple Pulitzer Prizes, is a major metropolitan daily newspaper and the 2nd largest newspaper in Kentucky after the Courier Journal.  I appreciate the tendency to discount coverage in a small-town paper, but regional coverage in major daily newspapers can't be discounted.  Kentucky has 4.3 million people, and these are the two largest newspapers in the state.  According to the List of countries by population, Kentucky's population is equivalent to Ireland and larger than 100 of the world's nations, including New Zealand, Uruguay, Lebanon, Panama, Lithuania and Mongolia.  Would we dis-allow a bio on someone from Ireland or New Zealand because the press coverage was predominantly from those countries?  Of course not.  Sure, we might discount newspaper from small towns, but not extensive coverage in the leading media outlets of a region with a population equivalent to Ireland. Cbl62 (talk) 04:16, 21 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep There is no mention of geography of the sources used to confer notability in WP:GNG, so subject meets it per Cbl62's research. Strikehold (talk) 18:09, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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