Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zittel's Marina


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Stifle (talk) 13:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Zittel's Marina
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 * Delete per WP:NOT wikipedia is not a directory Mayalld (talk) 20:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as a non notable business. I had previously attempted to have the article speedy deleted under G11 (blatant advertising). Basement12 (T.C) 20:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:13, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:13, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment This may be salvageable. I'll be looking for sources; please do not close prematurely. Jclemens (talk) 20:17, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I believe this passes WP:NTS, and I've found and added a number of independent sources.  I've also toned down the duplication of services, so it reads less like an ad. Jclemens (talk) 19:01, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I don't think local newspaper articles (from the town where the marina is) and very brief mentions in travel guides (which basically say 'you could stay here') or online directories of marinas gives the subject notability, Basement12 (T.C) 19:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * (ec) You're entitled to that opinion, but looking at the rest of WP:NTRAN, and specifically look at WP:Notability (airports)--applying the same thresholds, a significant port should be notable, and this marina is the only public boat launch that serves a large part of Thurston County, Washington. Nor am I done improving the article--I see plenty more ghits which need to be combed through for RS mentions. I agree that the article as it appeared when nominated was disproportionately commercial, and have remedied that both by cutting redundant information out and adding in historical context. Jclemens (talk) 19:20, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * However the marina is not the equivalent of an airport. A port is the equivalent of an airport. A marina is the equivalent of an aircraft hangar or a car park. Basement12 (T.C) 12:10, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * More like a general aviation airport. It's a boat launch, which is the place you switch from ground to aquatic transport, just like you switch from ground to air transport at an airport. It's not "just" a set of docks, which I agree would make it the equivalent of a garage. Jclemens (talk) 14:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Nine references to source seven descriptive sentences from local or guidebook sources, and information about portable toilets is in the second sentence. Flowanda | Talk 08:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as Wikipedia is not a business directory or a guidebook. Would be appropriate for Wikitravel, but their license isn't compatible with ours. Stifle (talk) 12:49, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


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