Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zombie Beach


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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 16:10, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Zombie Beach

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Article about a film, not reliably sourced as passing WP:NFILM. The strongest notability claim here is awards from minor film festivals that don't pass NFILM #3 (which is looking for festivals on the Cannes-Berlin-Toronto-Venice-Sundance tier, not just any small fry film festival that exists), referenced entirely to the festivals' own self-published websites about themselves rather than any evidence of media coverage about the awards to demonstrate that they're seen as notable -- and apart from that, the article is otherwise referenced entirely to the film's IMDb profile, a dead webradio station and a non-notable genre film blog rather than real GNG-worthy media coverage. There's just nothing here that's "inherently" notable enough to exempt the referencing from having to be better than this. Bearcat (talk) 02:04, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 02:04, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 02:04, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  02:33, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep, As the movie is old it has been shown in independent Carmike Cinemas (now AMC Theatres). Also many of the links are going to sites that have either changed or discontinued, which can be expected for older movies. As many Independant Film maker wants to make it to a Top Tier Festival, it is also quite difficult. All Awards are listed on IMBD - Zombie Beach (2010) Awards tehnam (talk • contribs) 22:20, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Simply having been shown in theatres is not an automatic notability claim in and of itself if there isn't any media coverage of the film (e.g. reviews by real film critics in real newspapers). Primary source links, dead or not, are not notability-supporting sources if there isn't any media coverage of the film. IMDb is not a reliable source if there isn't any media coverage of the film. Even an award isn't a notability claim until you can show that it's an award whose presentations get covered by the media. And on and so forth: notability is not a measure of what the article says, it's a measure of how well you can or can't source what the article says to evidence that it got media coverage. Bearcat (talk) 00:55, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  09:11, 23 August 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.