Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zora Neale Hurston Elementary School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. -Splash talk 01:47, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Zora Neale Hurston Elementary School
Non notable elementary school Dismas|(talk) 12:45, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per Schools/Arguments Kappa 13:46, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per Schools/Arguments Vizjim 14:02, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Blanket keep all of the schools nominated by Dismas. The nominator clearly has not had time to research all of these schools, and doesn't provide any evidence of his claims. Even if one doesn't accept that all schools are notable, several of these schools make clear claims on notability and the others are simply stubs which must be thoroughly investigated to prove non-notability. There is insufficient time to expect editors to research so many schools at once. Pburka
 * This page is called Articles for deletion, and it's the article that is judged here. It's the author that did a hack-job, and it's not the nominator's fault that this got nominated. Pilatus 14:57, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, that is a pile of steaming horse-manure. All of today's nominations by Dismas are nothing more than a mass-deletion attempt, as a weak effort to continue this absurd war of attrition against school articles. No effort was taken by this nominator to determine anything on an article-by-article basis - clearly demonstrated by a later nomination against a secondary (middle) school where the same nominator states (yet again) "Non notable elementary school". He did not even bother to read that the school he was including in his mass-nomination wasn't even an elementary school. The defense of this mass-deletion attempt is nothing than the usual deletionist scorched earth attempt to get school articles deleted.--Nicodemus75 21:26, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * In my own defense, I did read the Nautilus article, I'm aware that the locals refer to it as a "middle school". To me, grades 1-8 are elementary grades.  I didn't copy and paste those words.  To me, it's an elementary.  Dismas|(talk) 01:58, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Obviously I don't think there is much of a defense for this mass-nomination, but there has to be some objective standard. Grade EIGHT is not "elementary" by any definition I have ever seen. But I suppose I can now say that I consider grade 4 as Post-Secondary by this standard. Also, I think it's really' commendable that you typed out "Non notable elementary school" on all 23 of your nominations. As if that makes any difference whatsoever.--Nicodemus75 23:53, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all schools must be considered. None of these schools demonstrates or even makes *any* claim or to what would commonly be defined as notability. Intimidation by an organised bunch of who regularly stack such votes is against Wiki policy. Dunc|&#9786; 14:35, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Firstly, lack of notability is not a valid criteria for the deletion of school articles as per WP policy. Secondly, your claim that there is an "organised bunch of who regularly stack such votes" (no comment on grammar is necessary, I think) is both false and unsubstantiated. Please provide evidence that there is any such "bunch" who "stack such votes". People who do not agree with your deletionist agenda are not "stacking" votes, they are merely voting to keep what they believe to be valid, encyclopedic articles.--Nicodemus75 22:23, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete If these articles were about people, they wouldn't even have made it to AfD. They would have been put out of their misery at CSD with a quick shot to the head of good ol' A7. "An article about a real person that does not assert that person's importance or significance." Let's replace "person" with "school". Sounds good to me. Denni &#9775; 02:53, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per Schools/Arguments--Isotope23 14:52, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete This isn't the Yellow Pages. Pilatus 14:57, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Query the validty of a blanket keep vote, but blanket delete all the Dismas-nominated school "articles", just in case I've missed any and such a vote is valid. Proto t c 15:16, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep blanket keep vote for all Dismas-nominated school.--Vsion 15:47, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep this school and all in today's mass-deletion list. It's to risky to delete so many so quickly.  It would set a bad precident, which could apply to countless articles in many categories.   --rob 17:29, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Schools are no more notable than apartment buildings. Bunchofgrapes 18:31, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all non-notable elementary schools. TheMadBaron 19:23, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep for the reasons provided by Schools/Arguments. Silensor 19:24, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. No basis for deletion. Christopher Parham (talk) 19:46, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, schools are notable, bad faith mass nomination. -GregAsche (talk) 21:03, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Bad faith mass nomination.--Nicodemus75 15:32, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Please do not do this again. CalJW 22:10, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, schools are notable, bad faith mass nomination - Wikipedia is not paper. Who gave Dismas his janitorial barnstar??? Unwarranted time wasting effort to remove all elementary and middle schools from Wikipedia. KillerChihuahua 23:29, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, schools are not inherently notable. Lord Bob 01:08, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete But Im getting tired of voting delete to all these schools Im Abstaining for the rest. --Aranda56 02:03, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * keep please we do not need to make attacks on others we are supposed to be civil about this. Yuckfoo 03:53, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep article about verifiable public institution and censure nominator for disrupting Wikipedia to prove a point. --Gene_poole 04:26, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Its that simple.  Vegaswikian 06:13, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. No notability established. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 07:01, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Just to discoutrage this kind of mass nomination. It is bringing us nowhere. Sjakkalle (Check!)  07:05, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep for the same reason listed by Sjakkalle. -Parallel or Together? 07:24, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete -- red stucco 10:15, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: non-notable grade school. Jonathunder 19:27, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. yellow-pages entry on non-notable grade school. Cmadler 12:12, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - it clearly says that it is a school in the title. --Celestianpower hab 17:37, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, it clearly says it's a school in the title... (plus the article has nothing in it).Gateman1997 21:02, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and allow for organic growth. Klonimus 23:43, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. As per celestian. / Peter Isotalo 04:35, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep schools. ··gracefool |&#9786; 19:09, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete yet another non-notable schoolbot article, and larding it with a picture of Zora Neale Hurston doesn't make it any better. --Calton | Talk 01:58, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. It has potential to grow beyond what it is now. I see no good reason for deleting it. --Andylkl (talk) 16:16, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. The picture may be of marginal significance in this otherwise perfectly encyclopedic stub, but it serves a decorative purpose. --Tony Sidaway Talk  17:10, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per Schools/Arguments Un  focused  21:15, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.