Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zoroastrian Students' Association (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. I would consider this a suitable candidate for WP:SOFTDELETE. Regarding the weak keep !vote, Wikipedia is, rightly or wrongly, not the place to WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS; if our policies result in systemic bias (and I am making no judgment on that), then they should be resolved in a community-wide discussion, not abrogated jury nullification-style in an AfD. Kurykh (talk) 04:02, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Zoroastrian Students' Association
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This was nominated earlier and closed as no consensus. It's been quite a while since then and no sources have come forth. I am still unable to find any independent reliable sources about the organisation which can satisfy WP:ORGDEPTH. I am not even able to verify any of the content and I recommend a WP:DEL7 deletion. -- Lemongirl942 (talk) 06:42, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak keep: I share the concerns raised by another editor  during the first AfD; "Iran's Zoroastrian population is marginalized and it is not likely that it would receive generous attention from the IRNA or other government-blessed media sources. I would rather err on the side of caution, as per Adoil's acknowledgement of the systemic bias problems on this website, than delete because casual search engine queries don't pull up numerous sources."   It appears to have adequate verification that it really exists, though the material is in Arabic.   Montanabw (talk) 10:29, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:53, 12 February 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete I've spent some time using WayBackMachine to find archived pages of several references and added those to the article. Curiously ref #6 appears to be a copy of our article. The article sources suggest it is a small student organization.  It organizes events.  The events we know about are small, for example the yearly camp involves 38 students. With or without systemic bias small student organization are unlikely to have coverage that satisfies WP:ORGDEPTH or even WP:ORGIND.  Often coverage is limited to student publications.  I see nothing in the article that suggests this organization is an exception that would generate the necessary coverage if not for suppression by the government/people of Iran. My searches found little additional, just brief notices of meetings/events. Even if we give a pass to ORGDEPTH there is only minor coverage by independent sources which fails WP:ORGIND. Gab4gab (talk) 16:43, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 02:16, 20 February 2017 (UTC)


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