Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zulu (musician)


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The result was delete. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:03, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Zulu (musician)

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Does not meet guidelines for notability under WP:NMUSIC 217IP (talk) 22:22, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

The subject of the article has claimed that he is notable under item #1 of WP:NMUSIC due to a local radio station having a 2.5 minute long segment that covered him and another musician, but I believe this publicity fails to be notable due to it being trivial, and more importantly, it being coverage due to their new album (release information). Release information does not count as notability. There are a couple other cited mentions of him, but they are all trivial. The article itself is also very lacking in neutrality and seems to be a platform for self promotion. For instance, until I removed it recently, it included a reference to a travel pillow he is attempting to manufacture and sell. It also includes multiple paragraphs discussing the history of reggae that seems to have nothing to do with the musician. 217IP (talk) 22:35, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  lavender |(formerly HMSSolent )| lambast  00:30, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Panama-related deletion discussions.  lavender |(formerly HMSSolent )| lambast  00:32, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Because of the fact that I myself did not post the article I am not going to take responsibility for what's there. I can answer claims of non-notability with several more examples of press coverage which are not listed. There are certain tour dates like headlining Sydney Fest in 2010 and being 'the face' on all the promotionals and city buses. My tracks have been used in national (USA) commercial campaigns and even a television series in Israel (called New York). My album releases have charted on CMJ repeatedly and one of them (Electro Track Therapy) even made it to the provisional rounds of 2012-13 Grammy nominations... Not bad for a guy who has self released the majority of his material. I still have not mentioned my collaborations with several high profile, "Notable" artists from all over the world.
 * Hey Hello everyone :) MC Zulu here just speaking up for myself again.

Now I did come off the road to make sure my youth were raised right, and I don't regret it. As compared to a mainstream artist, these are not notable accomplishments. However the article infers that I was an influential figure on certain mainstream artists. It shows a timeline of events and coverage to support that. My release dates even support that. These are the points that User: 217IP deleted and contested, almost word for word, under another login (as User: 71.96.93.217). Said user focused solely on the Zulu Musician page during that time, and was even cited for engaging in an edit war. User then performed a revision to hide the citation from the 71.96.93.217 talk page. If you look that IP was even considered for a permanent block due to vandalism. This all happened in the past week.

I do not disagree that the MC Zulu article needs to be fleshed out, but as I received a great deal of scrutiny for simply adding my own picture last week, I am unwilling to make the changes. I have fans who follow me on social media and maybe they can help, I suppose. So I won't touch the article, but I will be here to answer any defamation against my character.... namely that I have attempted to use this site as a vehicle for self promotion. That is an incorrect assumption coming from one user who has been vigorously pursuing deletion as a first course of action.

Love and Blessings to you all...! Mczulu (talk) 04:26, 26 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete and draft/userfy if wished - The article has some notable sources but I'm not seeing much for solid independent notability and my searches found nothing good aside from a passing mention (thebanginbeats.com) at News. SwisterTwister   talk  05:21, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

All The Best...!!! Mczulu (talk) 13:51, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * This will be my last entry on the matter because I have wasted 9 days on it, and curiously enough my website was hacked during the same time. According to your guidelines, notability does not expire, nor should an article be an indicator of such. I made (the right) decision not to tour perpetually a few years ago, so you should not be checking "News". Check "The Web" and go 20-30 pages out if you wish. Those results are definitely not related to JUST ONE event (again, part of your guidelines). In the end though, you are going to do whatever you want to do. It may not be what I'd hoped, but there's always a silver lining :) There's also perspective. Acknowledgement here is great, but a 10th day is far too big a price.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. North America1000 16:04, 26 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete: Sorry, but NMUSIC's even soggier than PORNBIO used to be, and it's still subordinate to the GNG. I'm seeing a lot of blog posts about the guy, but a serious lack of significant coverage in reliable sources.  Nha Trang  Allons! 17:41, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:00, 26 June 2015 (UTC)


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