Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board/WikiProjects

This page is for discussing collaborations between the Australian city WikiProjects, the WikiProject Melbourne, WikiProject Sydney, WikiProject Adelaide, WikiProject Canberra, WikiProject Brisbane, and the WikiProject Perth. Feel free to start a project for your city!

Areas
WikiProject Melbourne/Suburbs, WikiProject Sydney/Suburbs

OK, I might as well kick this off. In NSW, as far as I know, we are broken into LGAs (municipalites, cities and shires), which are further broken into suburbs. Does this sound right? If so, I think I'm going to have to restructure the Sydney WikiProject somewhat. Also, people should be aware that Randwicked has created a fantastic infobox! I'm thinking of making it a template... - Ta bu shi da yu 03:54, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * We basically have the same thing in Victoria, I think. Randwicked's template is great - it'd be nice if we had a similar set of maps for Melbourne so we could use it down there. I don't think it'd work as a template though? Ambi 04:36, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of making it a template to reduce some of the table formatting from the main articles. We just add the images as template parameters. Any modifications we make to the template will then be reflected in all the articles... this would save a lot of time and give us a more consistent infobox across the board. - Ta bu shi da yu 09:53, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Sounds good...you'll have to do that tho, my wiki-fu is not at that level yet. Randwicked 13:25, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Done.
 * For the record, for the sake of consistency I've put the electorates at "Division of..." (i.e. Division of Melbourne Ports) - it's their official name, and it saves messy disambiguation issues. Ambi 15:04, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

OK, we've all had a break, whats the decision? :) My suggestion would be to treat the boxes more like a "nearby suburbs" table, not to be too strict about directions (give or take 45 degrees). So long are there are no more than 8 surrounding suburbs, use the basic box (Template:MelbSuburbBox1) Second question - do you want to duplicate the format as SydSuburbBox1, etc, or change the template so that the metro area and state are also variables, and therefore the template can be used for all cities?  -- Chuq 12:52, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure we're want one... Sydney was never nicely planned like Melbourne was! I think the latest one you made is pretty cool though. (to my shame I once started removing the boxes as I didn't get what you guys were trying to do!) - Ta bu shi da yu 14:16, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Only the innermost suburbs were that well planned. The rest of it is almost as nutso as Sydney's design. Try making those boxes for the outer suburbs sometime. ;) I think they'd work for Sydney as well though. Ambi 15:04, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

That infobox is great, I'd love to steal it if we had maps for it :( Anyways, if there were every maps made for the Melbourne suburbs, the adjacency table would be superceded. It's really a stopgap, a tabular map-surrogate. If my Photoshop skills were anything like Randwicked's, I'd try my hand making them myself, but then I'd also have to get the boundaries from somewhere... hmmm T.P.K. 14:34, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Yeah, in some ways. I like being able to navigate around the suburbs though. It's a bit of an encouragement (when they're actually filled out) to work on neighbouring areas. Ambi 15:04, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * I think you guys should keep the boxes... unless someone can work out a way to incorporate them into the infobox. One thing I'd like to have included in the infobox is something like they do in the Surrey infobox - that is the broken down districts. This might be a good replacement to the adjacent suburbs infobox. Or might not, depending on what Melburnites think... - Ta bu shi da yu 15:11, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Well, I guess we could have some esoteric system whereby we have maps, infoboxes, and adjacency tables all coexisting peacefully. I don't know :) Oh, and we're Melburnians, not Melburnites! Sorry, pet hate :P T.P.K. 15:17, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Remember that the infobox is for local government areas, whereas the adjacency tables are for suburbs. Ambi 15:20, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Well I was thinking of a map showing the suburb inside the LGA, along with all the others. Prehaps a fully-fledged infobox is overkill. T.P.K. 16:08, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Stations
WikiProject Melbourne/Railway stations, WikiProject Sydney/Railway stations

How will we handle railway stations, seeing as most cities (bar Melbourne) have very little, if any, of the articles done? The best examples of ours are all on the Alamein line. Also, I was wanting opinions on which previous/next station table is better, the new style (at the bottom), or the old style (I'm not so much interested in the visual appearance, but the content; does the new style convey what the old style does?) [Just for the record, a more complex table for an inner-city station: Flinders Street Station (new style), Richmond railway station, Melbourne (old style)]. Thankyou for your time! T.P.K. 13:35, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Now that infobox is a very good idea! I like the new style. - Ta bu shi da yu 01:13, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Most of the Melbourne station pages have the new infobox style, but some still have the old style - I'm trying to get as many new ones done as I can. Have any other cities adopted our infobox styles? Somebody in the WWW 10:17, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Sydney has hardly any articles, none with line boxes (List of Sydney railway stations), Brisbane (List of Brisbane railway stations) has about half the articles there, and with a linebox that looks like the old Melbourne style, but with the line colour up the top (some of the colours make it hard to read). Adelaide (List of Adelaide railway stations) is in the same boat as Sydney, and Perth (List of Perth railway stations) has sum total 0 articles. I think I'll have to start getting stubs up for all these next. At least Melbourne has articles and tables for every station, even if they're not all exactly alike yet. Though Sydney and Brisbane may not like the setup Melbourne has, due to all the crisscrossing lines we lack. T.PK 11:21, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Suburbs
I've created another suburb box - Template:MelbSuburbBoxIncomplete

''This Melbourne article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by [ expanding it]''.

Fairly basic, and obviously it is designed for work-in-progress suburbs. Note also the link to Category:Melbourne suburbs (incomplete) at the bottom of the page. Sydney/Canberra/other guys - just say the word and I'll make non-Melbourne specific versions of this, and the others at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Melbourne/Suburbs. -- Chuq 05:51, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * A couple of things - there's no need for the category link, since there's already a separate category for incomplete articles on geographical locations in Melbourne (it was called, but it's recently been changed to . Also, including a stub template inside another template causes all sorts of problems, so it would be better if that was added separately (it's the wrong template anyway -- it should be melbourne-geo-stub) Grutness...  wha?  02:18, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

New Infobox
Can people please use the Template:Infobox Australian Place Infobox. Thankyou. --TheJosh 04:22, 3 December 2006 (UTC)