Wikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals/Archive1/SciMath

Science and Mathematics
I have a suggestion. How about create one of those circle things such that each point of the barnstar touches the edge of the circle? Or create a special 6 point barnstar. -- AllyUnion (talk) 08:12, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC) I thought I would try my hand with The Gimp, and came up with the electric atom star... – ClockworkSoul 14:28, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * My first thought about science was how bohring it can be :) The monitor I'm using for the next couple weeks is about 12 years old, so is not very good for doing work in photoshop.  Let me know how it can be improved using your fancy 21st century technology. -- BRIAN 0918   04:15, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Brian, you're just too punny! I like the "atomic star" thing alot; I was thinking along the same lines myself. – ClockworkSoul 17:39, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * It looks fuzzy to me. -- AllyUnion (talk) 08:06, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I used a cartooning effect to make the barnstar look like part of a diagram, something on which you'd see one of those old atomic models. Would simply sharpening it be enough? -- BRIAN 0918   14:37, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Might I propose a version? -- Riffsyphon1024 08:44, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Of course: you can propose anything you like! This isn't a private club. ;) – ClockworkSoul 14:33, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * This is my version: -- Riffsyphon1024 20:57, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * And while I'm on the idea of pasting heads onto barnstars, how about the Einstein Science/Math Barnstar. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:27, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * A note on my uploads. The people's images are fair-use in that these are common images of them and are all over the place. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:37, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * I have no complaint about the images themselves, but I personally feel that pasting images on heads onto barnstars is... well, just a little creepy. Perhaps I'm just creeped out by the disembodied Christopher Walken head pasted onto the now-defunct PrankStar? – ClockworkSoul 15:40, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Well I admit that Christopher Walken is kinda creepy himself already. Lol. -- Riffsyphon1024 01:57, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * True that! And his floating, disembodied head, doubly so! It makes me shudder to think of it! – ClockworkSoul 04:32, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * How about just his mustache and hair? Would that be too creepy? If not, would it be recognisably Einstein? --Deathphoenix 14:05, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that such a barnstar would end up resembling a "Groucho Barnstar", and would end up being more funny than "scientific". – ClockworkSoul 14:09, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Like a pentagram you mean? – ClockworkSoul 15:40, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how you got a pentagram from what I was talking about. I was suggesting that the overlapping circles or "orbitals" intersect each other such that they only have five points on the inside. -- AllyUnion (talk) 06:21, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I like how it looks like it's radioactively glowing. -- Riffsyphon1024 17:09, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * I posted a different one. Does this look radioactive? -- Riffsyphon1024 00:23, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * It looks a lot like the Surreal Barnstar. -- BRIAN 0918   00:27, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Although I like the various recent attempts, I'm still supporting the first 3. The serious folks who probably contribute a great deal of science and mathematics articles might consider these later versions to be too "tacky".  Plus, I'm naturally biased.  :)   BRIAN 0918   00:27, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I removed another version I made as copying it and editing it person after person deterioated its quality, and posted this in its place. I must really get to writing that paper. Plus I agree, it does look like the Surreal. -- Riffsyphon1024 00:36, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)

I liked the proposition n. 3, the "Barnstar atom", by Riffsyphon. I believe it has that science-serious appearance that would be necessary for this award, as Brian well said. That image surrounding the barnstar, those circling atoms, is very reminiscent of science. Although the "radioactive barnstar" looks cool, it may be too colorful for this particular segment of contributors. Regards, Redux 02:19, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Okay - now what do we call it?
There hasn't been much discussion here so far, so do we have any good ideas for names? Obligatory vanilla names, The Barnstar of the Sciences or The Scientific Barnstar. Another thoughts I had: The Erudite Barnstar. – ClockworkSoul 19:59, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I propose these elemental names: Wikipedium or the Wikipedium Barnstar. Maybe Barnstarium? -- Riffsyphon1024 23:39, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * How about Atomic Barnstar, or Bohrnstar? -- BRIAN 0918   00:19, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmm... how about this: The Astrum Ædificium or the Astrum Edificium? – ClockworkSoul 00:42, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I could suggest The Petri Barnstar -- you know, since a Petri Dish is used for culturing microorganisms, the "microorganisms" here being the science-related articles. Too far fetch?  Redux 02:19, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I plate bacterial colonies pretty much daily, and the very hint brings the unpleasant smell of agar to mind. Yuck! – ClockworkSoul 02:37, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I'd like User:68.81.231.127 to be the first to get this, but it's not that important. (all those periods on his user page are links to articles) -- BRIAN 0918  02:32, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Works for me. Should we set up some image and name grids, and start voting now? – ClockworkSoul 02:37, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I just looked at his page. Amazing: this guy has been more active as an anon than many named users. Will he be the first anon to earn a barnstar? – ClockworkSoul 02:39, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * He's not just contributing content either. He seems to know all the Wikipedia style policies.  See his edit of one of my articles.  In my opinion he should be the first anon to be an admin, but I'm not sure how that would work.  -- BRIAN 0918   02:45, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I say E=MC² Barnstar --Cool Cat My Talk 04:27, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Vote or die!
This one seems ready for a vote also. Like the Culture Barnstar, this voting period is open-ended, and will be closed when a clear concensus is reached. In the event that no concensus is reached, a second vote will be held among the front-runners. – ClockworkSoul 14:32, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Image selection board
No deadline; boards will be closed when a clear concensus is reached. – ClockworkSoul 15:03, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Name selection board
Lots of great names proposed here, which I listed in alphabetical order. Again, no deadline; the boards will be closed when a clear concensus is reached. – ClockworkSoul 15:03, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I voted on both, but I don't know if it actually helped with the name selection. I like the sound of Petri Barnstar... we should definitely ask Riffsyphon which of these two are preferred. --Deathphoenix 23:06, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * If the voting keeps up like this, we'll have to start over, or something! It will never be the "Petri star", however :P – ClockworkSoul 12:09, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I'd like to close this out, but I don't see a clear consensus just yet... Has anybody not yet votes? – ClockworkSoul 03:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, some of the people who usually participate in this forum have not voted (Grutness and Deathphoenix, for instance), but it doesn't mean that they will. They might be absent from Wikipedia at the time or just not interested in participating in this particular issue.  As I see it, we cannot drag this on much longer.  I say if no one else votes for the next three days, we close this out and accept a relative majority (very relative, but can we do?) and select the E=MC2 name, which has gotten 3 votes so far.  Or, at the very least, we can, in three days time, start a second election between the E=MC2 and the Petri Star names, which are the two most voted, so the people who voted for the other names (all two of them) can help settle this for once (but within a limited voting period, since we already know the opinion of most of the people who did vote, so there's no reason to allow a second election to go on for another two weeks or so).  Regards, Redux 03:58, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we should just as Riffsyphon1024 which one he prefers? – ClockworkSoul 16:44, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I've been watching this page for a while now, but I haven't voted or commented on anything, though I'd like to be involve. How about I break the deadlock by throwing my two cents in? Bratsche talk  random 17:14, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)

SciMath star proposal
Okay, this has been open for a long while now, so I guess it's okay to close it. Above is the final proposal for the star: what do you all think, yea or nay?


 * Well, if that's the format the majority chose, it's fine, we can close it out &mdash; still think that the image n. 3 would be the best though. I took the liberty of correcting a tiny grammar slip in the proposed header, I hope it's all right.  Regards, Redux 02:36, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I find it hard to believe that 4-3 is a consensus. -- Riffsyphon1024 03:12, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * I think we should wait on this one, though the scale was just tipped 5-3 in favor of the victor. Zscout370 03:15, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Which voting block are you looking at? 5-3 is the vote for naming. I still see a 4-3 vote for the picture. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:02, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm not entirely happy with it either, but we let it sit open for quite some time. If you're very unhappy with it, we can leave it open longer: I'm in no hurry, and I would prefer broader concensus as well. – ClockworkSoul 13:37, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * I swtiched my vote to the slim majority one (E=mc2), but I am not sure if others will do the same. Zscout370 (talk) 01:03, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

By tacit acceptance, this award is hereby installed as per ClockworkSoul proposition. No one was contesting the final choice openly anyways, we were just stalling in order to get more people to vote, which is now clear that is not likely to happen. Regards, Redux 13:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)