Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DannyS712 bot 2


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DannyS712 bot 2
Operator:

Time filed: 02:35, Tuesday, January 8, 2019 (UTC)

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic

Programming language(s): AutoWikiBrowser

Source code available: AWB

Function overview: Add WikiProject Soil to talk pages per request (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Bot_requests&diff=877156145&oldid=877118167&diffmode=source)

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate):

Edit period(s): One time run

Estimated number of pages affected: <1261 pages (not accounting for duplicated pages or those already having the wikiproject tag)

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Already has a bot flag (Yes/No): No

Function details:

AWB:
 * 1) Make list from category
 * 2) Convert to talk pages
 * 3) Preparse to remove if WikiProject Soil already present
 * 4) Prepend wikiproject tag.




 * 1)  - 108
 * 2)  - 48 (including Chile and US sub categories)


 * 1)  - 140
 * 2)  - 4
 * 3)  - 2
 * 4)  - 5
 * 5)  - 59
 * 6)  - 67
 * 7)  - 20
 * 8)  - 87
 * 9)  - 92 (including individual country sub categories)


 * 1)  - 55
 * 2)  - 82
 * 3)  - 34
 * 4)  - 10
 * 5)  - 91
 * 6)  - 9
 * 7)  - 191
 * 8)  - 11
 * 9)  - 58
 * 10)  - 18
 * 11)  - 5
 * 12)  - 10
 * 13)  - 55

Total (not accounting for duplicated): 1261

Discussion
How many talk pages are expected to be edited with this run? Primefac (talk) 20:14, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Less than 1261 pages will be edited. For a trial, you may want to choose one of the small categories listed in the "Analyzed list" (which includes individual sizes) and I can check every edit manually afterwards. --DannyS712 (talk) 21:12, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Followup questions:
 * What do you mean by Preparse to remove if WikiProject Soil already present?
 * Are you just adding the template, or are you also assessing?
 * Primefac (talk) 21:28, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Here is what I would do with AWB:
 * Tell AWB to skip a page if it already contains
 * Turn on "pre-parse" mode, and run
 * This means that, rather than editing each article that is not skipped before proceeding, it saves articles that should be edited, and skips those that shouldn't be
 * Thus, at the end, I know that the list I have does not contain any pages that already have WikiProject Soil
 * For more information, see AutoWikiBrowser/User manual
 * Turn off pre-parse mode, and prepend  to the remaining talk pages
 * This would not actually assess the article itself. I can see a future task where, for pages already tagged as stubs,  is replaced with , but that is not part of this request.
 * Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:42, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * BAGAssistanceNeeded --DannyS712 (talk) 03:00, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

You don't need to remove anything, just create your list based on https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=7313284 and then you won't have to add or remove anything. As for TALKLEAD, yes, if you append the text and then do genfixes, it will make sure all of the GA stuff etc will end up in the right place. To be honest I don't know if it will take care of the WPBS issue, but it sounds like your logic works. Primefac (talk) 20:08, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Primefac (talk) 00:36, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm going to review each of the edits, and will link to my analysis. --DannyS712 (talk) 01:15, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Edits and issues documented at User:DannyS712 bot/Task 2 Trial analysis --DannyS712 (talk) 01:32, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Initial thought looking at your analysis - a PETSCAN would fix the majority of the "duplicate template" issues. Also, TALKLEAD can be fixed by doing genfixes after adding the new text. Primefac (talk) 20:39, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * For the petscan - what do you mean? I'm already scanning for the pages to edit, and then removing the false positives with awb, but how would I remove them with petscan? Also, for the TALKLEAD thing - I just want to verify that you want me to run awb with genfixes enables, and have genfixes run after adding the template so that it is in the correct location? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 21:36, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * ^^ -- The SandDoctor Talk 17:40, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay. I will use that list instead. Does genfixes also work if i prepend the template/does it matter? --DannyS712 (talk) 20:35, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I converted that list to a awb friendly format at User:DannyS712 bot/Task 2 list --DannyS712 (talk) 20:45, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see if the issues presented above have been worked out. Primefac (talk) 19:53, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I misunderstood the trial approval - I thought it was 25 pages, I'm sorry. I made 45 edits, 25 additions of the template, and then 20 more on the same pages to apply genfixes to correct the location. I haven't figured out how to have genfixes run in the same edit, but after the addition of the template. Sorry, I'll analyze the results soon. --DannyS712 (talk) 20:31, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 45 edits: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=DannyS712%20bot&start=2019-01-28&end=2019-01-28
 * The only issue I found, other than the 2 passes needed, was this page. I guess I missed it with genfixes.
 * If approved, I would, in batches of ~50:
 * Go through and add the template
 * Go through and apply genfixes
 * Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 20:37, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * That's not a good way to do it. If you're going to add the templates, it should be done in one edit. Unfortunately, I've done some dry runs and it doesn't look like AWB's genfixes will deal with the TALKLEAD issues, so you'll likely have to make do with some regex. Of course, with only 350 pages left that need the template, it might be best to just do this supervised and manually fix any that need it before saving the page. Primefac (talk) 03:48, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm willing to try that --DannyS712 (talk) 04:00, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 20:37, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * That's not a good way to do it. If you're going to add the templates, it should be done in one edit. Unfortunately, I've done some dry runs and it doesn't look like AWB's genfixes will deal with the TALKLEAD issues, so you'll likely have to make do with some regex. Of course, with only 350 pages left that need the template, it might be best to just do this supervised and manually fix any that need it before saving the page. Primefac (talk) 03:48, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm willing to try that --DannyS712 (talk) 04:00, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

All righty then. Primefac (talk) 04:00, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't have time in the next few days though - is that okay? --DannyS712 (talk) 04:25, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * There's no rush; take all the time you need. Primefac (talk) 04:27, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * (contributions all listed here) edits made manually (corrected the mistakes before saving) per discussion above. Should this be relabeled as a manual or supervised task? --DannyS712 (talk) 22:40, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
 * BAGAssistanceNeeded --DannyS712 (talk) 08:45, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * If you're having to fix pages manually before saving, then yes it should be a manual task. If you want to figure out a way to make it fully-automatic then I'll send it back to trial. Otherwise, I don't see anything wrong with this task. Primefac (talk) 20:48, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
 * then I'll do it manually with AWB from the bot account (once its approved, of course) - I don't know how I would fix the issues and make it automatic. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 20:56, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Primefac (talk) 20:57, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
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