Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MathCoolBot


 * The following discussion is an archived debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. The result of the discussion was Symbol delete vote.svg Denied.

MathCoolBot
Operator: MC10

Automatic or Manually Assisted: Semi-automatic: I will look over the edits it makes.

Programming Language(s): AWB

Function Overview: Correcting warning template code using AWB. Possibly use AWB for other work.

Edit period(s): When I am online.

Already has a bot flag (Y/N): N

Function Details: I plan to replace   with  subst:  - mainly warning templates. Later, I might plan on using this bot to do typo-correcting work and changing welcome to {{subst:welcome}} using [ Special:WhatLinksHere].

Discussion
The advantage of is that if someone forgets to subst the template, the rendered output is still legible. Your proposed modification destroys this, and it doesn't seem to actually behave any different when the template is substed. Was this change discussed anywhere beforehand? Anomie⚔ 04:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think the change should work better, if someone types in something else for the parameter |subst=.  M C  10  &#124;  Sign here!  04:41, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The way I see it:
 * If the template is not substed, the old version gives correct rendering to the reader while your new version displays template garbage.
 * If the template is substed without specifying the "subst=" parameter, both seem to behave exactly the same.
 * If the template is substed with "subst=subst:", both seem to behave exactly the same.
 * If the template is substed with "subst=" set to anything besides empty or "subst:", the old version screws up while your version has correct results.
 * All in all, I don't see that breaking #1 is sufficient for fixing #4, since #1 is a common error of forgetting the subst while #4 seems like a very uncommon error. And I see no discussion of this proposal anywhere. Better to try to get, , and/or fixed. Anomie⚔ 15:03, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

The proposed change was apparently not discussed anywhere, and now discussion at WT:UTM has begun complaining regarding point #1 in my comment above in some of the templates MC10 changed manually. IF you can get actual consensus for this change at WT:UTM and/or WT:UW, feel free to file a new request. Anomie⚔ 13:02, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


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