Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/OccultBot


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OccultBot
Operator:

Time filed: 05:06, Thursday July 10, 2014 (UTC)

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: Manual. Automatic.

Programming language(s): AutoWikiBrowser

Source code available: AWB

Function overview: Add listas parameter to the pages that doesn't have one.

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate):

Edit period(s): Multiple runs

Estimated number of pages affected:

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No):

Already has a bot flag (Yes/No):No

Function details:

Discussion
OccultZone Since this is going to be done manually I think you can use your main account for this. Moreover, you do not need permission from BAG to create an alternative account (see Alternate_account). You can create it and make clear that this is alternative account of yours. In both cases no bot account is needed for this task. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:24, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

The estimated number of pages can be found at Category:Biography articles without listas parameter. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:25, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Didn't knew that "automatic" "manual" is about working, I thought it was more about checking, changed to automatic now. I got 1 comp, 1 laptop, so one can be always busy at creating listas as I do something else on main account.  Occult Zone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:00, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * , listas has to be done manually. There is currently no automatic way to get the names right.  Todo listas, you have to look at the main article.  Nationality of names is not always obvious.  Even if nationality is known, listas can depend on when person lived and their occupation.  Defaultsort is often wrong too. Bgwhite (talk) 07:50, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Adding parameter, not filling the parameter, i.e. just add "listas=", not "listas=Michael, Davidson". Previously, at least 2-3 users used to add the parameter. But they are not active anymore, had no issues either. Saves about 3 - 6 seconds per entry. Occult Zone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:56, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * , a bot still won't be approved for that. Adding an empty parameter is considered trivial.  Bgwhite (talk) 08:22, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes it is basically trivial, that's why I don't do on main account. But still adds something that save efforts so thought of giving a try.  Occult Zone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 08:31, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

just for future reference and in order that you improve your BRFA's: Please try to provide an estimate of the pages affected. A link to a discussion and/or manual that show that the community is aware of the request and this request has consensus is important to get approval for the task. But by my experience, adding a blank parameter won't gain consensus and there will be many complains. A task like this, if it gains consensus it could be done by User:BattyBot for instance while it does other stuff which are considered to be more important. Thanks for trying to help by introducing some good ideas but in my opinion this is not the correct task to start a bot. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:34, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds better and meaningful. But interestingly I got at multiple tasks to do. I wonder if this whole request can be WP:TNT or have new task added, or maybe you can mention one task every request?  Occult Zone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 08:42, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You can request multiple similar tasks but not all tasks altogether in order to allow discussion. I think after this request you learned a lot of new stuff including the difference between: automatic, manually, supervised. This is a good start :) Recall, that your requests must be based on a bot request, some discussion or policy/guidelines. I am tempted to close this request as declined and allow you to make a new request when ready. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:48, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Not a good bot task. You are welcome to come again with new ideas and proposals. I suggest that you use WP:BOTREQ page to discuss your suggestions for bot tasks etc. Recall that everything that is to be done should have community's approval. Also recall that anything that has to do with WikiProjects has to be discussed in WikiProjects' pages first. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:46, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
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