Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Tom.Bot 6


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Tom.Bot 6
Operator:

Time filed: 13:17, Friday, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic

Programming language(s): C# & AWB

Source code available: User:Tom.Bot/Task6 code

Function overview: Add Authority control to all pages with Infobox person

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Template:Authority control/doc ("An empty instance of this template stays dormant in an article, until values are added to Wikidata, when it will then display them, so this template should be added to all biographies, whether or not there are authority control identifiers in Wikidata already.") & Template talk:Authority control

Edit period(s): One-time bulk run with sparse checks in the future

Estimated number of pages affected: ~91,000

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Already has a bot flag (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: IIf Authority control is added, the following cosmetic changes are piggybacked:
 * 1) DEFAULTSORT, AllMovie name, Clear, Commons category, IMDb name, and Reflist names are all standardized as shown
 * 2) if DNE, a blank line is added between the end of the infobox & the first line of body-text
 * 3) 1 blank line is added before Authority control when appropriate
 * 4) Remove Clears below and immediately above Authority control, as it effectively self-clears as a navbox
 * 5) WP:JR/SR applied for commas
 * 6) WP:GenFixes on

Discussion

 * Strong support: I see too many biographies, where there are identifiers on Wikidata, but they are not displayed in this Wikipedia, because the Authority control template is missing. And please do this for other biographical infoboxes, also. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:43, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Can/will do.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  22:57, 4 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose - better to have human review, also suggest a Village Pump RfC would be warranted given the scale. Further discussion here. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:48, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Being displayed on the page would facilitate human review. I don't have too much desire to advocate for Authority control as it seems decided, especially since it's been on 500k+ articles for a while and given the wording on the /doc. Will likely leave an RfC for others to start/spearhead, and I can chime in.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  04:08, 5 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Support: Desirable when there are relevant identifiers on Wikidata; harmless (because invisible) when there aren't. — Stanning (talk) 07:39, 8 May 2018 (UTC)


 * But: not sure what's meant by "DEFAULTSORT, AllMovie name, Clear, Commons category, IMDb name, Reflist are all standardized as shown" As shown? Does this mean that the bot is to standardize the capitalization of the magic word or template names (good, uncontroversial), or is it to standardize the parameters (bad, or at least debatable)? — Stanning (talk) 07:39, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * , name only.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  11:54, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Let's approve this for a trial to see if it works (technically). I'll need to ponder about consensus here, but we can go to trial at least to help people see what exactly is being proposed. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:07, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Edits. The first (newest) 13 had no Wikidata sources available, and the remaining 12 (oldest) contain at least 1 Wikidata source as described in the edit summary. The edit summary's link back to this discussion erroneously points back to Tom.Bot 5's BRFA, and has been corrected in the code.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  14:54, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

The bot is approved to add the template when there is something to display, which could be run as a continuous task (e.g. daily, hourly, whateverly). For adding the template when there is nothing to display, I think that needs a wider discussion. (I'll also point out this is something that could be added as a minor AWB genfix without much fuss.) You can file another BRFA for that task after such a discussion occurs. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:07, 26 May 2018 (UTC)


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